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    Deca and Sides

    I had my heart set on running a nice long bulk this winter test/deca and rest TBD. I ran npp and had no issues. Actually felt like a god on that shit. But I've read some nasty stories about sexual dysfunction with deca. Does deca carry a higher risk of these sides than other drugs? Maybe I'm reading into a few experiences too much? But after fighting crazy ed all year I'm not into risking too much...honestly I'd drop all aas if I thought that was the answer. I wont start anything til the plumbing is back to working properly.

    I know that it's always a risk - curious what the consensus here at ASF is though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbeaph View Post
    I had my heart set on running a nice long bulk this winter test/deca and rest TBD. I ran npp and had no issues. Actually felt like a god on that shit. But I've read some nasty stories about sexual dysfunction with deca. Does deca carry a higher risk of these sides than other drugs? Maybe I'm reading into a few experiences too much? But after fighting crazy ed all year I'm not into risking too much...honestly I'd drop all aas if I thought that was the answer. I wont start anything til the plumbing is back to working properly.

    I know that it's always a risk - curious what the consensus here at ASF is though.

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    Until now, ive kept it to 450 or lower with b6 supp and had no problems. Running 600 now with b6 and no problems so far. Keep some caber on hand and e2 in check and ahould be fine assuming the dose isnt crazy high. That's just me experience tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samgraves82 View Post
    Until now, ive kept it to 450 or lower with b6 supp and had no problems. Running 600 now with b6 and no problems so far. Keep some caber on hand and e2 in check and ahould be fine assuming the dose isnt crazy high. That's just me experience tho.

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    Thanks! I was thinking around 500 - I dont get too nuts with doses. B6 is for extra prolactin control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbeaph View Post
    Thanks! I was thinking around 500 - I dont get too nuts with doses. B6 is for extra prolactin control?

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    Yep. Id recommend 50 mg proviron too

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    It messed with me man! Havenít touched it in years because of that one ďissueĒ Iím sure thereís ways around it but Iíve always steered clear of it since.

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    I have to run Masteron with Deca or I have serious ED issues (obviously I run test as well). I don't run much deca, just add enough for joint support to my cycles.

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    brother.. i personally believe if npp worked great for you.. then do as I do.. use both.

    With npp .. you have the phenylprop ester.. 4.5 - 5 days half life.. so when you inject this product 2 - 3 times a week, the nandrolone side effects don't add up to much because it's in and out of your system so quickly..

    Nandrolone Deca.. the Deca ester.. is a 15 day half life.. so when you blast this ester twice weekly.. Your levels just keep getting hire and hire.. as oppose to the NPP reaching the peak levels around day 2-3.. and then decreasing.

    With this in mind.. Thru the winter.. most I'll run for Deca is 300mg week.. while adding .5mL of NPP to my injections, 2x week.. for a total of 400mgs of Nandrolone per week.

    Also.. i've always had ed issues.. since i was a teen.. thanks to improper usage and understanding of steroids.. i've spent many years trying to figure out what works for me.. esp now that im middle aged..
    And after learning that I hardly ever use more than 400mg of any compound per week anymore and get better results with lower mgs than higher.. I also found out that Cialis is the best ED medication on the planet..

    If you've not tried ours out.. you should ... Ever since I started using 10mg of cialis daily (replacing sketchy viagra).. my dick has a new lease on life..
    I fuck better now than any other time in my life.. My dick is rock solid .. and the sensation of what you feel seems very enhanced..
    Further more.. My girl has now offered to pay for my cialis for as long as we're together... She's a very naughty woman.. and requires much attention in the sack..
    I've never had soo much success in the bedroom ....

    No exaggeration whatsoever .. If you don't get our cialis.. just get it from somewhere ... You'll be glad you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadGas View Post
    brother.. i personally believe if npp worked great for you.. then do as I do.. use both.

    With npp .. you have the phenylprop ester.. 4.5 - 5 days half life.. so when you inject this product 2 - 3 times a week, the nandrolone side effects don't add up to much because it's in and out of your system so quickly..

    Nandrolone Deca.. the Deca ester.. is a 15 day half life.. so when you blast this ester twice weekly.. Your levels just keep getting hire and hire.. as oppose to the NPP reaching the peak levels around day 2-3.. and then decreasing.

    With this in mind.. Thru the winter.. most I'll run for Deca is 300mg week.. while adding .5mL of NPP to my injections, 2x week.. for a total of 400mgs of Nandrolone per week.

    Also.. i've always had ed issues.. since i was a teen.. thanks to improper usage and understanding of steroids.. i've spent many years trying to figure out what works for me.. esp now that im middle aged..
    And after learning that I hardly ever use more than 400mg of any compound per week anymore and get better results with lower mgs than higher.. I also found out that Cialis is the best ED medication on the planet..

    If you've not tried ours out.. you should ... Ever since I started using 10mg of cialis daily (replacing sketchy viagra).. my dick has a new lease on life..
    I fuck better now than any other time in my life.. My dick is rock solid .. and the sensation of what you feel seems very enhanced..
    Further more.. My girl has now offered to pay for my cialis for as long as we're together... She's a very naughty woman.. and requires much attention in the sack..
    I've never had soo much success in the bedroom ....

    No exaggeration whatsoever .. If you don't get our cialis.. just get it from somewhere ... You'll be glad you did.
    That's an interesting way of doing it - makes a lot of sense. Cialis has always helped in the past great for me but over the last 7-8 months its had no effect...or very little. I even took 90mg one night - figuring I'd f*** and head to the er to fix the priapism....couldn't even have sex. I'm starting the ed low dose a couple days ago...hope your system works for me too!

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    Did a solo deca run after crashing test and I still have yet to have a libido as strong as I did during that run. Since then Iíve done deca with test since then and all I got was side effects and none of the euphoria or libido increase from solo


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    I ran .5mg caber 2x per week while I was on my test + deca cycle. Didn't experience any bad side effects from it, but I didn't notice the lubed joints like some people say. It also shut me down really hard, had a hell of a time after my PCT. Lost a lot. Deca did get me to my strongest point that I ever was though when I was on it. And now that I have made the choice to no longer PCT I would definitely try it again. Think I'm going to do NPP next time though.

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    NPP and Deca are very similar, just one is short ester and one is long. I prefer Deca, its my favorite compound for bulking.

    You need to know your body well going into a Nandrolone cycle, because if you can control your estrogen you will also control your prolactin and you wont need Caber.

    Get bloodwork, have an AI and Caber on hand. And keep Test slightly higher, and youll be good.


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    I ran both in the past w winstrol inj. Decca/winny was amazing as far as gains and feeling really good physically/mentally, but it killed my erections. I took a cruise with a light dose of Tren E for a few months. Then ran NPP/Winny... Much better. Wasn't like a rock, but it was there. I just took 50mg Viagra for ins. At the time I knew nothing of CABER. After further research and with the help of these fine gentleman on this board, I'm going to incorporate CABER this NPP cycle I'm starting in the next week or so. We'll see what happens. I agree with my man up top. Everybody's a bit different, you just have to be in tune with your body and how it respondes to different compounds. Just like diet and training brother. Pay close attention, ask these guys questions and you'll figure it out... Good luck brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukey View Post
    I ran both in the past w winstrol inj. Decca/winny was amazing as far as gains and feeling really good physically/mentally, but it killed my erections. I took a cruise with a light dose of Tren E for a few months. Then ran NPP/Winny... Much better. Wasn't like a rock, but it was there. I just took 50mg Viagra for ins. At the time I knew nothing of CABER. After further research and with the help of these fine gentleman on this board, I'm going to incorporate CABER this NPP cycle I'm starting in the next week or so. We'll see what happens. I agree with my man up top. Everybody's a bit different, you just have to be in tune with your body and how it respondes to different compounds. Just like diet and training brother. Pay close attention, ask these guys questions and you'll figure it out... Good luck brother.

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    Appreciate the feedback guys. Being honest...I have a helluva time getting my a.i. dosage right. I need to do bloods every 2 weeks it seems to stay on top...which probably isnt in the picture. Maybe deca isnt the best idea..

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    I have never had one side from Deca but that's just how some of us are.......To be honest ,I've played with my doses of Deca and found (for me) 300-400 works great...Yes, more works better but not that much...So, if you've on the fence,stay around 300 and see how it goes..

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    you can control your estro and also control your prolactin, but you can't completely control your progesterone which is my big problem with the 19nor.

    and yes, my cock suffers and even the nipples.

    we are different and react differently, you just have to try and be ready to fight the side or to take off the product.

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