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    So, if I was to do 300mg/deca a week, Iím already on 140mg (test-c) prescribed for trt, do I need to run Caber? To be safe? If so, when would I start it (Caber) and at what dosage? Through the trt I already take anastrozole at .5mg (half a pill) 48 hours after receiving the test-c injection. My apologies for ďhi-jackingĒ the thread but reading it sorta lead to more questions for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashrogue View Post
    So, if I was to do 300mg/deca a week, Iím already on 140mg (test-c) prescribed for trt, do I need to run Caber? To be safe? If so, when would I start it (Caber) and at what dosage? Through the trt I already take anastrozole at .5mg (half a pill) 48 hours after receiving the test-c injection. My apologies for ďhi-jackingĒ the thread but reading it sorta lead to more questions for me.
    I'm no expert here but my understanding is if you keep estrogen in check that caber may not be of much use. I ran my npp higher and had no progesterone problems..its a conversion issue. It seems most guys need it when running much higher doses. Bottom line is you wont know for sure until you get some bloods pulled.

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    I run 500mg/week Deca and 750/mg/week test E and At 50 years old I have no issues getting hard. However takes twice as long to nutt. Wife does not mind but it wears me the fuck out. I assume itís the Deca causing it. My sleeping on the other hand is SHIT. I wake up with the sound of a cotton ball falling on carpet and canít get back to sleep for hours. I average 3 to 4 hours sleep a day. Donít know if itís gear causing it or what but it SUCKS ASS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashrogue View Post
    So, if I was to do 300mg/deca a week, Iím already on 140mg (test-c) prescribed for trt, do I need to run Caber? To be safe? If so, when would I start it (Caber) and at what dosage? Through the trt I already take anastrozole at .5mg (half a pill) 48 hours after receiving the test-c injection. My apologies for ďhi-jackingĒ the thread but reading it sorta lead to more questions for me.
    You only need to take Caber if your prolactin levels are high. You dont take Caber randomly, or for precaution. You need bloodwork to know when to take it. If you control your estrogen with an AI you will also control your prolactin and you wont even need Caber.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Badknees View Post
    I run 500mg/week Deca and 750/mg/week test E and At 50 years old I have no issues getting hard. However takes twice as long to nutt. Wife does not mind but it wears me the fuck out. I assume itís the Deca causing it. My sleeping on the other hand is SHIT. I wake up with the sound of a cotton ball falling on carpet and canít get back to sleep for hours. I average 3 to 4 hours sleep a day. Donít know if itís gear causing it or what but it SUCKS ASS.
    Good god man! Thatís a serious cycle! Thatís a lot of test! What kind of results have you seen?
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    although you are referencing the same drug in my humble opinion for myself they both function like a completely different drugs.. NPP at high dosage even out performs at self at moderate dosages like another completely different drugs.

    Nandrolone decanoate is my go to compound.
    I run mast and proviron with it and 10mg Cialis everyday or every other day. Very rarely do I need to incorporate caber, but when I do that's mostly when my dosages 750mg..
    In my humble opinion it doesn't matter what testosterone ratio you run because even at 1g that won't make any difference with performance or combating any side effects. The game changer is going to be lowering your shbg and keeping your estrogen in check, having low shbg with more free T is what's going to make the difference in the end.. that will keep you functioning like a MALE, while the nandrolone decanoate is the workhorse working in the background..
    This is the one compound that I seriously abused and used for long durations.. nothing makes me feel better than the combination of testosterone, masteron and nandrolone decanate..
    I know this is a very unpopular statement but nandrolone decanoate really shines when you exceed 750, give your macros holy hell and carb up.. nandrolone loves calories and it loves carbs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
    although you are referencing the same drug in my humble opinion for myself they both function like a completely different drugs.. NPP at high dosage even out performs at self at moderate dosages like another completely different drugs.

    Nandrolone decanoate is my go to compound.
    I run mast and proviron with it and 10mg Cialis everyday or every other day. Very rarely do I need to incorporate caber, but when I do that's mostly when my dosages 750mg..
    In my humble opinion it doesn't matter what testosterone ratio you run because even at 1g that won't make any difference with performance or combating any side effects. The game changer is going to be lowering your shbg and keeping your estrogen in check, having low shbg with more free T is what's going to make the difference in the end.. that will keep you functioning like a MALE, while the nandrolone decanoate is the workhorse working in the background..
    This is the one compound that I seriously abused and used for long durations.. nothing makes me feel better than the combination of testosterone, masteron and nandrolone decanate..
    I know this is a very unpopular statement but nandrolone decanoate really shines when you exceed 750, give your macros holy hell and carb up.. nandrolone loves calories and it loves carbs...
    What do you use to keep shbg levels low?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbeaph View Post
    What do you use to keep shbg levels low?

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    Masteron/proviron... I posted some blood work the other week about it you should check it out..

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    I think the problem with Deca is the half lif while only 15 days its detectable in your system for 3 months, possibly while some might think the did a PCT and are clear still have lingering sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler7 View Post
    I think the problem with Deca is the half lif while only 15 days its detectable in your system for 3 months, possibly while some might think the did a PCT and are clear still have lingering sides
    Indeed, the long half-life (15 days) coupled with taking a weekly dose means the drug is steadily building up in the system in large amounts....no? Half of your first dose will still remain in your system, upon taking your third injection. Is this correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashrogue View Post
    Good god man! Thatís a serious cycle! Thatís a lot of test! What kind of results have you seen?
    Results are good considering my age, diet, and gym time. I only taking in in between 1400 and 1700 calories a day and doing about 2 hours for 3 days a week in the gym. Trying to get down to 190 from 210. I was loosing muscle at an alarming rate so I thought this cycle would help with that. Iím adding in anavar Monday.

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    I just found out for sure all my ed problems were from dam beta blockers. Now I want to run deca again haha...keep those good reports coming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badknees View Post
    Results are good considering my age, diet, and gym time. I only taking in in between 1400 and 1700 calories a day and doing about 2 hours for 3 days a week in the gym. Trying to get down to 190 from 210. I was loosing muscle at an alarming rate so I thought this cycle would help with that. Iím adding in anavar Monday.
    I hear you bro, Iím not to far behind you (late 40ís). Iím contemplating an Anavar / Deca cycle myself. Iím still planning it out and will probably start 1st or 2nd week in November. Iím dialing in my diet needs, getting some blood work done, etc...before I embark. I really want the cycle to succeed (meet my goals), so Iím researching as much as I can. This forum ROCKS! I have learned a ton and feeling confident about my choices!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badknees View Post
    Results are good considering my age, diet, and gym time. I only taking in in between 1400 and 1700 calories a day and doing about 2 hours for 3 days a week in the gym. Trying to get down to 190 from 210. I was loosing muscle at an alarming rate so I thought this cycle would help with that. Iím adding in anavar Monday.
    The nandrolone will definitely help in that department.. don't be afraid to throw in some carbs after your workout..in fact you'll need it if you're doing 2 hours.. I would suggest doing an immediate post carb..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbeaph View Post
    I just found out for sure all my ed problems were from dam beta blockers. Now I want to run deca again haha...keep those good reports coming!

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    Good deal bro. When you start, keep a log and weíll follow.

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