Very Impressed! First injection ever and I chooe PSL!

[Vision]

Hey vision! Can I send you a PM?

Of course homie

 

[GottaGetGains]

**********UPDATE**********

Week two of injections complete. Not really feeling much different yet. Also still have not used AI.

 

[GottaGetGains]

At this point, heading into week three I don't know if its placebo or not but over all, mentally... I just feel damn good!

 

[Vision]

At this point, heading into week three I don't know if its placebo or not but over all, mentally... I just feel damn good!

This is around the time frame you will start feeling a sense of well-being..by the end of the fourth week rolling into the fifth you'll start to feel like dynamite..

 

[GottaGetGains]

*******UPDATE*******
Week 3 is at an end. I no longer really feel any pain after the injections. In my glutes, that is. I'm sure If I inject elsewhere it will hurt like hell again.
I will continue to alternate glutes this cycle.
I do feel better. Scale is sitting a little bit heavier, but not much. I'm recovering a bit faster after work outs but I still get mildly sore. I don't know if there is really much of a strength increase yet.
For example: I've been able to perform 225 5x5 on bench press before cycle, did 235 5x5 instead this week. So it's either in my mind or the testosterone is kicking in... I aim more for my looks but I would be telling a lie If i said I didn't want my max numbers to go up. Before cycle my numbers were Bench Press:285 Squat:395 Dead-lift: 445 that was at 175lbs. I'm currently 181lbs. Really hoping to push into the 190-200lbs range before cycle ends with minimal fat gain.
We will see.

Stay tuned PSL.

 

[Vision]

*******UPDATE*******
Week 3 is at an end. I no longer really feel any pain after the injections. In my glutes, that is. I'm sure If I inject elsewhere it will hurt like hell again.
I will continue to alternate glutes this cycle.
I do feel better. Scale is sitting a little bit heavier, but not much. I'm recovering a bit faster after work outs but I still get mildly sore. I don't know if there is really much of a strength increase yet.
For example: I've been able to perform 225 5x5 on bench press before cycle, did 235 5x5 instead this week. So it's either in my mind or the testosterone is kicking in... I aim more for my looks but I would be telling a lie If i said I didn't want my max numbers to go up. Before cycle my numbers were Bench Press:285 Squat:395 Dead-lift: 445 that was at 175lbs. I'm currently 181lbs. Really hoping to push into the 190-200lbs range before cycle ends with minimal fat gain.
We will see.

Stay tuned PSL.

this is good man, your sites are getting use to the oils.. if you get knotted up or any pain, do lots of stretching, this helps when I get a bit of pip or a loitering knot..

strength is clearly go up, any gains is good gains man...

 

[GottaGetGains]

*******UPDATE*******

Week 6 starts tomorrow!

So far so good! I have to take a drug test tomorrow, and although i'm nervous as hell I know I shouldn't be at all what so ever. It's just a 12-panel test.

Aside from that! I'm ready to pin it to win it!

 

[GottaGetGains]

I also plan to check blood work this week.

 

[Vision]

*******UPDATE*******

Week 6 starts tomorrow!

So far so good! I have to take a drug test tomorrow, and although i'm nervous as hell I know I shouldn't be at all what so ever. It's just a 12-panel test.

Aside from that! I'm ready to pin it to win it!

Hopefully everything goes well with the test.. do not take any energy drinks or any type of pre-workout or anything of that nature.. none of those stimulant drinks that you see on the shelves in the stores.. they are known for giving false positives.. other than that you should be good to go my dude..

 

[jozifp103]

​Any updates on strength, weight etc?

 

[GottaGetGains]

​Any updates on strength, weight etc?

Yes indeed!

*******UPDATE WEEK 8*******
Definitely stronger. Hit 300 on bench. 485 dead-lift and i'm hoping to break 500 before cycle ends. I also hit 405 pretty smooth on squats but I didn't attempt any higher. Before this cycle I was 275 bench, 445 dead-lift and 380 squat. So strength is on the rise or maybe I am bout to plateau, who knows.
I was 175lbs at the start. My end day weight is 193 now and morning is 189.5-190. I still have visible abs but sometimes I feel a bit pudgy/bloated. I have not taken any e-blocks yet. I also skimped out on week 6 blood work and I need to get it done ASAP. Possibly this week.
Sex drive is up. I've been going without a condom so I hope my sperm count is currently low.

Happy Monday!

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I also passed a drug test with flying colors =)

 

[TripleOvertime]

I've been going without a condom so I hope my sperm count is currently low.

That is a risky game you are playing. Be safe(er) unless you are trying to have children.

 

[GottaGetGains]

That is a risky game you are playing. Be safe(er) unless you are trying to have children.

I say that jokingly because I assume my sperm count is literally down because I am taking testosterone. I would love to have kids one day. This is my first cycle and I want to do everything perfectly if I can!

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But I understand what you are saying!

 

[jozifp103]

I say that jokingly because I assume my sperm count is literally down because I am taking testosterone. I would love to have kids one day. This is my first cycle and I want to do everything perfectly if I can!

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But I understand what you are saying!

Lol I wouldn't rely on steroids as a contraceptive. Many top level body builders have kids. Don't be silly, cover your willy! Or at least make sure she's on the pilly.

 

[Tall Deck]

Also, can someone tell me...

I am using a 23g 1 inch for glutes. I'm 12-13% BF. Can I get by with a 25g 5/8th inch? That 23g hurts

I wouldn't recommend using pins shorter than one inch for intramuscular injections. I use 1" in all areas. As far as the gage, it depends what oil is used in the gear you're using. A lot of longer ester gear, (cypionate, Enanthate, Decoanate, etc) tend to use thicker oils and for those I use 23 gage pins. Many of the shorter ester stuff, (like Acetates) often use thinner oils, and for those I use 25g pins. You can also run the hot water until it gets to maximum temp, and then fill the sink up just enough where the water level will be just a bit lower than the top of the gear vial, and then stand the vial up in the sink for 1 to 2 minutes to warm up the oil which makes it thinner, (that's what I do). Or you can do what Vision does by using a blow dryer, (NOT a heat gun!! A hair dryer). But if you live with someone else who doesn't know you're using AAS's then they're going to ask you why you use the blow dryer so much when you're in the bathroom. LOL

I'm sure I don't have to tell you this, but be sure to clean the vial stopper as well as the injection site with isopropyl alcohol throroughly before you poke. You really don't want an infection!!! I also wipe my hands down with alcohol before I begin the whole procedure, and I wipe down the counter top with it too, and wait a minute for it to dry. If you use the hot water in the sink method, use caution not to knock over the vial in the water. You don't want water getting inside the gear vial since the water isn't sterile and will contaminate the gear. After that happens, you wouldn't want to inject the stuff from that vial anymore.

I've never had an infection after several years of poking with AAS, and I keep these on hand just in case symptoms of an infection rear their ugly head, (if you have pain and unusual swelling at an injection site that isn't getting better by the 7th or 8th day, you better either get to a doctor quick, or at least get on this stuff here).....



https://fishmoxfishflex.com/products/bird-sulfa-sulfamethoxazole-400-mg-tablets-30-count

 

[GottaGetGains]

Lol I wouldn't rely on steroids as a contraceptive. Many top level body builders have kids. Don't be silly, cover your willy! Or at least make sure she's on the pilly.

She just started birth control thankfully!

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I wouldn't recommend using pins shorter than one inch for intramuscular injections. I use 1" in all areas. As far as the gage, it depends what oil is used in the gear you're using. A lot of longer ester gear, (cypionate, Enanthate, Decoanate, etc) tend to use thicker oils and for those I use 23 gage pins. Many of the shorter ester stuff, (like Acetates) often use thinner oils, and for those I use 25g pins. You can also run the hot water until it gets to maximum temp, and then fill the sink up just enough where the water level will be just a bit lower than the top of the gear vial, and then stand the vial up in the sink for 1 to 2 minutes to warm up the oil which makes it thinner, (that's what I do). Or you can do what Vision does by using a blow dryer, (NOT a heat gun!! A hair dryer). But if you live with someone else who doesn't know you're using AAS's then they're going to ask you why you use the blow dryer so much when you're in the bathroom. LOL

I'm sure I don't have to tell you this, but be sure to clean the vial stopper as well as the injection site with isopropyl alcohol throroughly before you poke. You really don't want an infection!!! I also wipe my hands down with alcohol before I begin the whole procedure, and I wipe down the counter top with it too, and wait a minute for it to dry. If you use the hot water in the sink method, use caution not to knock over the vial in the water. You don't want water getting inside the gear vial since the water isn't sterile and will contaminate the gear. After that happens, you wouldn't want to inject the stuff from that vial anymore.

I've never had an infection after several years of poking with AAS, and I keep these on hand just in case symptoms of an infection rear their ugly head, (if you have pain and unusual swelling at an injection site that isn't getting better by the 7th or 8th day, you better either get to a doctor quick, or at least get on this stuff here).....



https://fishmoxfishflex.com/products/bird-sulfa-sulfamethoxazole-400-mg-tablets-30-count

Thank you for the solid advice!!!!

 

[GottaGetGains]

I am starting to get some serious heart palpitations. Anyone get this at all?

 

[Vision]

I am starting to get some serious heart palpitations. Anyone get this at all?

Hormones can do this, drink more fluid and donate a point of blood.. cut back on any pre-work or stims if you are taking any, including coffee..

 

[Tall Deck]

Hormones can do this, drink more fluid and donate a point of blood.. cut back on any pre-work or stims if you are taking any, including coffee..

Absolutely!!! And while you're at it, check your blood pressure daily. High BP can and does eventually screw up kidney function as well as eye sight

 

[GottaGetGains]

Hormones can do this, drink more fluid and donate a point of blood.. cut back on any pre-work or stims if you are taking any, including coffee..

Thank you for the information!

However, I am very paranoid about this and I have decide that I will cut this cycle short at only 8 weeks.
I will start PCT in two weeks. I'm very nervous about coming off because I have never done this before and do not know what will happen.

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I have clomid and nolva so I should be good to go.

 

[Tall Deck]

Thank you for the information!

However, I am very paranoid about this and I have decide that I will cut this cycle short at only 8 weeks.
I will start PCT in two weeks. I'm very nervous about coming off because I have never done this before and do not know what will happen.

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I have clomid and nolva so I should be good to go.

I sure hope you're well aware of the fact that some guys are more prone to gyno during the post cycle period than they are during the AAS cycle. It's during this time when your own body's small amount of Estrogen does not have enough Testosterone to compete with it for cell receptor sites in the nipple areas. So be sure to take Nolva, (I prefer an AI like Aromasin ir a SERM like Raloxifene myself since they both work better for me than Nolvadex ever has) for a good 6 weeks after halting the gear cycle in order to prevent gyno, (even longer in the case of lengthy gear cycles that lasted 12-16 weeks).

 

[GottaGetGains]

I sure hope you're well aware of the fact that some guys are more prone to gyno during the post cycle period than they are during the AAS cycle. It's during this time when your own body's small amount of Estrogen does not have enough Testosterone to compete with it for cell receptor sites in the nipple areas. So be sure to take Nolva, (I prefer an AI like Aromasin ir a SERM like Raloxifene myself since they both work better for me than Nolvadex ever has) for a good 6 weeks after halting the gear cycle in order to prevent gyno, (even longer in the case of lengthy gear cycles that lasted 12-16 weeks).

I plan to take clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20
I was somewhat aware of the possibility of gyno after the cycle. However, I hope this PCT does me well because if not I will go straight to the doctor and fess up lol. I just want the heart flutters to go away.

 

[jozifp103]

I plan to take clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20
I was somewhat aware of the possibility of gyno after the cycle. However, I hope this PCT does me well because if not I will go straight to the doctor and fess up lol. I just want the heart flutters to go away.

Oddly enough I had a heart murmur at age 4, then no irregularities whatsoever until high school I experienced my first arrhythmia (palpitation) in math class and was taken out by an ambulance because I thought I was having a heart attack. Then dealt with obnoxious palpitations for almost a decade. It would happen any time I went from a dormant or non-active state to even a mildly active state. Literally getting up off the couch could trigger one. I lived my teenage and early 20's years thinking I was dying (so over-dramatic). I was able to still lift and do some active things and if it acted up I could just take 5-10 minutes and sit down until it subsided. But I was afraid to play sports because if you're in the game and your heart starts acting up you don't really have the option to sit out. There's just too much pressure. Kind of fucked up my high school experience because I loved playing football.

Now to the point of this story...oddly enough after almost a decade of sporadic heart palpitations I ran my first cycle. Based on everything I said above most would think that was a terrible idea. However, since my first cycle I have had hardly any issues with heart palpitations whatsoever. I'll still get one occasionally if I'm hung-over or dehydrated or sick etc, but so does anyone else lol. It doesn't control my life anymore and I'm inclined to credit steroids for fixing this problem. Sounds crazy but the evidence is there. The only other time I had them regularly was during PCT which I only did twice before I just decided to blast and cruise.

*Note:
-Arrhythmia = irregularity in the heartbeat (continuous)
-Palpitation = short instances of irregularity. Episodic arrhythmias. (Sporadic, not continuous.)
Both are typically used interchangeably but these are the correct terms.

 

[Adrenolin]

Was a nice thread going. You cut it just as it was about to get good. Next time, if you plan to do a shorter cycle (<10wks), use faster acting esters. You'll get faster, better gains... especially if you pin frequently enough to keep your blood concentration of hormone stable.

100mg Test propionate is more potent than 200mg Test cypionate.

 

[Adrenolin]

A quarter tab (6.25mg) a day of cialis always helps keep my blood pressure in check on cycle. Also consider if you've drastically increased your water intake, it is a strong diuretic.. and while it helps hydrate you, it can inadvertantly dehydrate you by causing you to lose key minerals and electrolytes. Gotta be sure your diet is well balanced to replace those. Keep the sugar as low as possible. Limit sodium to no more than 2000mg, the body only needs 200mg sodium daily to function properly. Try to get 6000+ potassium. If you can accomplish those, it will not only help the function of your heart but also help keep you dry, yet the muscle full. Don't use AI's if at all possible, they're bad for your heart.. arimidex wrecks cholesterol and aromasin blocks mineral uptake which directly effects the function of your heart. I'd only recommend AI's the last 3 wks leading up to a contest, or if your e2 is wildly out of control. I like my e2 around 60. Message me if you have questions or need assistance. Take care bro

 

[jozifp103]

A quarter tab (6.25mg) a day of cialis always helps keep my blood pressure in check on cycle. Also consider if you've drastically increased your water intake, it is a strong diuretic.. and while it helps hydrate you, it can inadvertantly dehydrate you by causing you to lose key minerals and electrolytes. Gotta be sure your diet is well balanced to replace those. Keep the sugar as low as possible. Limit sodium to no more than 2000mg, the body only needs 200mg sodium daily to function properly. Try to get 6000+ potassium. If you can accomplish those, it will not only help the function of your heart but also help keep you dry, yet the muscle full. Don't use AI's if at all possible, they're bad for your heart.. arimidex wrecks cholesterol and aromasin blocks mineral uptake which directly effects the function of your heart. I'd only recommend AI's the last 3 wks leading up to a contest, or if your e2 is wildly out of control. I like my e2 around 60. Message me if you have questions or need assistance. Take care bro

I knew about adex messing with cholesterol but I was unaware that aromasin can mess up mineral absorption. Do you have any articles on this? I'd love to read up on it. I know it's such a cliche/obnoxious question but I'm only asking because I'm interested to learn more. I personally don't save articles that I read. I just retain the important info and move on so no worries if you don't have it.

 

[Adrenolin]

I knew about adex messing with cholesterol but I was unaware that aromasin can mess up mineral absorption. Do you have any articles on this? I'd love to read up on it. I know it's such a cliche/obnoxious question but I'm only asking because I'm interested to learn more. I personally don't save articles that I read. I just retain the important info and move on so no worries if you don't have it.

I'll have to message gymrat on hcu. A quick search showed long term use of exemestane increases risk of osteoporosis due to the poor absorption of calcium which lead to low bone mineral density in female cancer patients. But there was one about the heart, I'll have to ask gymrat

 

[jozifp103]

I'll have to message gymrat on hcu. A quick search showed long term use of exemestane increases risk of osteoporosis due to the poor absorption of calcium which lead to low bone mineral density in female cancer patients. But there was one about the heart, I'll have to ask gymrat

This one is interesting because I've always read that certain estrogens like estradiol can also lower bone mineral density, especially when given to adolescent females as contraception in combination with progesterone. So now estrogens and progesterones can hurt your bones...and so can the drugs that lower them.

Women can't catch a break with this one. Take birth control, risk of bone loss, and breast cancer. Beat breast cancer, stop taking birth control and switch to doctor prescribed AI to help prevent re-occurrence of breast cancer...and continue to damage bones, now face risk of pregnancy.

What's the alternative to all this? Use a condom? Gaaaahhh there's gotta be some other way!

 

[303055622lr]

A quarter tab (6.25mg) a day of cialis always helps keep my blood pressure in check on cycle. Also consider if you've drastically increased your water intake, it is a strong diuretic.. and while it helps hydrate you, it can inadvertantly dehydrate you by causing you to lose key minerals and electrolytes. Gotta be sure your diet is well balanced to replace those. Keep the sugar as low as possible. Limit sodium to no more than 2000mg, the body only needs 200mg sodium daily to function properly. Try to get 6000+ potassium. If you can accomplish those, it will not only help the function of your heart but also help keep you dry, yet the muscle full. Don't use AI's if at all possible, they're bad for your heart.. arimidex wrecks cholesterol and aromasin blocks mineral uptake which directly effects the function of your heart. I'd only recommend AI's the last 3 wks leading up to a contest, or if your e2 is wildly out of control. I like my e2 around 60. Message me if you have questions or need assistance. Take care bro

This makes me wanna smash my head thru a wall. Some newbie who doesn't fit into this cookie cutter apporach will have high blood pressure and gyno cuz a "coach" told him.

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[Adrenolin]

This makes me wanna smash my head thru a wall. Some newbie who doesn't fit into this cookie cutter apporach will have high blood pressure and gyno cuz a "coach" told him.

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Pull your head out of your ass and perhaps share some of that infinite wisdom you've learned from your whole <2yrs of cycle experience.