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Can Clomid to Boost Test?

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Can Clomid to Boost Test?

Can clomiphene be used to treat low T? Here's what you need to know.

Steroid-using bodybuilders often use the drug clomid (an anti-estrogen) to help restore testicular function after a cycle, but you may have heard about doctors prescribing it instead of testosterone to boost natural T levels.

Does that work? Yes, it absolutely works and works incredibly well. There are more than a couple studies showing its benefit. I now consider it my first line therapy for low testosterone after trying to correct with diet and exercise.

I used to suggest HCG for this, but clomid is cheaper and more effective – it raises T and has a nice effect on the estrogen to testosterone ratio, where HCG may worsen that ratio in some. It also has a very good safety record with virtually no negative side effects reported in studies and no negative impact on PSA and hematocrit levels.

Clomid is cheaper than either HCG or testosterone. The typical dose is 12.5 to 50mg per day. I usually start my patients at 25mg per day and then retest all blood values after 6 weeks, adjusting dosing as needed.

One Caveat
Clomiphene (clomid) doesn't have a great track record for sexual symptoms like erectile function. Little known fact, neither does testosterone have an automatic benefit in this realm. Some of my patients have seen a worsening of erections as testosterone rises. While we're not yet sure why some respond positively and others don't, the estrogen to testosterone ratio may be playing a role.

The final thing to know is that clomiphene works by interaction with the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis and the adjustment of the signaling hormones FSH and LH. For this reason, the hypothalamus and pituitary need to be functioning well for the medication to work. If it doesn't work, it's an indication the site of dysfunction isn't the testes, but rather the brain.
 
I have seen some people talk about having eye issues while using clomid. That is one of the things I wouldn't want to compromise.
 
I was just watching a youtuber that had experience with doctor prescribed clomid. Before getting on TRT route, his doctor just prescribed him clomid. He said it doubled his testosterone levels, but because it also raised his SHBG, his free testosterone didn't go up. His estrogen also went up during that time and he said for the few months he was using clomid his gym performance actually declined.
 
I have a client who went from 300's n/dL to 1100n/dL consistently on Clomid at 25mgs ED. The most common I see is a few hundred n/dL, so a client going from 300 to say 6/700 is very common, but goes to show you individual response does vary.

Clomid works like a charm in most users, but the mood changes and acne some people complain of seems to be a downside for some.
 
I have a client who went from 300's n/dL to 1100n/dL consistently on Clomid at 25mgs ED. The most common I see is a few hundred n/dL, so a client going from 300 to say 6/700 is very common, but goes to show you individual response does vary.

Clomid works like a charm in most users, but the mood changes and acne some people complain of seems to be a downside for some.

If you are recommending clomid to someone, would you include proviron and an AI as well...to help with the possibility of increased estrogen and SHBG...or would whatever amount of suppression brought on by the proviron make the clomid useless?
 
If you are recommending clomid to someone, would you include proviron and an AI as well...to help with the possibility of increased estrogen and SHBG...or would whatever amount of suppression brought on by the proviron make the clomid useless?

Honestly and I am speaking only on behalf of working with Endos on this topic. I rarely saw them prescribe an AI (They prescribed and I administered in my job in the med field, as I was not a doctor) so anyways, yeah rarely an AI. Never have I seen them prescribe Proviron, but cialis is very common to go along side HRT regimens. Clomid is usually prescribed at 25mgs ED or EOD and if they do an AI, I usually only ever saw Arimidex used at .25mgs eod or e3d. If I had to give my personal suggestion I would personally prefer Exemestane at 6.25-12.5mgs EOD. Cialis was prescribed at 5mgs ED and 20mgs PRN (as needed) or in severe cases.

Hope this info helps :)
 
I have a client who went from 300's n/dL to 1100n/dL consistently on Clomid at 25mgs ED. The most common I see is a few hundred n/dL, so a client going from 300 to say 6/700 is very common, but goes to show you individual response does vary.

Clomid works like a charm in most users, but the mood changes and acne some people complain of seems to be a downside for some.

I would like to know why I am not responding to clomid at 50mg eod. My test just came back at 55. LH 1.8 FSH 4.2. I was expecting higher numbers than that. LH is really low and FSH low normal.
 
Honestly and I am speaking only on behalf of working with Endos on this topic. I rarely saw them prescribe an AI (They prescribed and I administered in my job in the med field, as I was not a doctor) so anyways, yeah rarely an AI. Never have I seen them prescribe Proviron, but cialis is very common to go along side HRT regimens. Clomid is usually prescribed at 25mgs ED or EOD and if they do an AI, I usually only ever saw Arimidex used at .25mgs eod or e3d. If I had to give my personal suggestion I would personally prefer Exemestane at 6.25-12.5mgs EOD. Cialis was prescribed at 5mgs ED and 20mgs PRN (as needed) or in severe cases.

Hope this info helps :)

it does! I have a close friend who wants to dip his toes in the world of AAS, but can't get past the needle. He's approaching 40, so trt could be on his horizon anyway, and the more I read that people are using clomid successfully, the more I think I'd point him in that direction...if he'd every get bloodwork done and get a little serious about it.
 
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