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    Im on 200mg per week. Im at the end of my 5th week since I started and my bloods came back with TT 1481, FT 416, and E2 at a 26. He wanted to dial it down but I told him I feel great so its up to me. Anyone have any input on my protocol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by letsgetweird315 View Post
    Im on 200mg per week. Im at the end of my 5th week since I started and my bloods came back with TT 1481, FT 416, and E2 at a 26. He wanted to dial it down but I told him I feel great so its up to me. Anyone have any input on my protocol?
    He said it's up to you? Cool doc.

    If all your other blood markers are healthy I'd stay right there. T at 1481 is above physiological but only a bit, and may not have a measurable downside. But if lipids, hemocrit, or other things creep out of range I'd dial it down.

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    Yeah it wasn't really a formal conversation, but he did say at loud "well you are doing your injections at home so I can't make you change the protocol but just make sure to keep in touch with any issues or side effects". Nothing from the 4 week bloods were out of the normal range that I was told about. I'm going to go back in a couple weeks and check again just to be safe. Those clinics are great.
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    He said it's up to you? Cool doc.

    If all your other blood markers are healthy I'd stay right there. T at 1481 is above physiological but only a bit, and may not have a measurable downside. But if lipids, hemocrit, or other things creep out of range I'd dial it down.

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    I go to an HRT clinic. He pretty much knows what the deal is, but neither of us say anything. He essentially prescribes cycles and assumes other guys are running things on the side. If it's a legit TRT clinic that prescribes normal doses, I definitely wouldn't say anything.

    If blasting and cruising, one of the key things I look for in a TRT doc is how often they do bloodwork. Every 6 months is ideal - gives you plenty of time to run blasts and get levels and health markers back to normal.

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    I wouldnít. You chance it ending up in your record which could cause issues with future claims or life insurance even.

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    I am lucky, my doc knows all about my experimenting with other compounds beyond my TRT protocol which is only .7 ml per week of cypionate. He won't prescribe any for me (such as nandrolone) but he doesn't ask questions about where I get it; and he always asks to send him my blood tests after my experiments, to both monitor me as a patient and also to add to his growing knowledge of anabolics and their impacts on older men who are on TRT. It's research.

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    I worked in the field for a decade and I assure you that telling your Doctor the truth is playing Russian Roulette. They will put remarks in your permanent file if you admit to AAS use, just as they do with REC's. I've seen it many times.

    And if any other doctors see that file, the chances are they will as well. I would say 90% of doctors will mistreat you if they have that info in front of them. The odds are not in your favor. Trust me on this.

    Never ever tell the doctor what you have done or are doing, unless of course it's something like an emergency and you are at the ER, dying bc you took too much DNP. That's different. Never admit to AAS use.

    I had a very cool primary doctor once that ran some labs and he had to be like 80. He was like, look, " I need you to lower your dose of Creatine" bc your liver levels are off, and some other values. He was cool as hell. So just for him I did reduce it and come back and retest, and he was pleased.

    He very clearly knew the deal and was awesome about it. He retired. Every Doctor I have had since then (except for mine now) was garbage. I went in one time with a 37 nano reading ( I made happen ) and she was like, well, there's nothing I can do for you, even though you are not in range,this is a healthy number for a male your age. LOL.

    Doctors and HRT are the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    I worked in the field for a decade and I assure you that telling your Doctor the truth is playing Russian Roulette. They will put remarks in your permanent file if you admit to AAS use, just as they do with REC's. I've seen it many times.

    And if any other doctors see that file, the chances are they will as well. I would say 90% of doctors will mistreat you if they have that info in front of them. The odds are not in your favor. Trust me on this.

    Never ever tell the doctor what you have done or are doing, unless of course it's something like an emergency and you are at the ER, dying bc you took too much DNP. That's different. Never admit to AAS use.

    I had a very cool primary doctor once that ran some labs and he had to be like 80. He was like, look, " I need you to lower your dose of Creatine" bc your liver levels are off, and some other values. He was cool as hell. So just for him I did reduce it and come back and retest, and he was pleased.

    He very clearly knew the deal and was awesome about it. He retired. Every Doctor I have had since then (except for mine now) was garbage. I went in one time with a 37 nano reading ( I made happen ) and she was like, well, there's nothing I can do for you, even though you are not in range,this is a healthy number for a male your age. LOL.

    Doctors and HRT are the worst.
    Wow. If only there were a way to introduce a GnRH antagonist into her water supply or something... let her see how she reacts to her own hormone levels being mysteriously just above zero -- along with her energy level, mood, libido, bone mass, etc. Seems like a lot of people fail at basic sympathy until they personally suffer the same problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    I worked in the field for a decade and I assure you that telling your Doctor the truth is playing Russian Roulette. They will put remarks in your permanent file if you admit to AAS use, just as they do with REC's. I've seen it many times.

    And if any other doctors see that file, the chances are they will as well. I would say 90% of doctors will mistreat you if they have that info in front of them. The odds are not in your favor. Trust me on this.

    Never ever tell the doctor what you have done or are doing, unless of course it's something like an emergency and you are at the ER, dying bc you took too much DNP. That's different. Never admit to AAS use.

    I had a very cool primary doctor once that ran some labs and he had to be like 80. He was like, look, " I need you to lower your dose of Creatine" bc your liver levels are off, and some other values. He was cool as hell. So just for him I did reduce it and come back and retest, and he was pleased.

    He very clearly knew the deal and was awesome about it. He retired. Every Doctor I have had since then (except for mine now) was garbage. I went in one time with a 37 nano reading ( I made happen ) and she was like, well, there's nothing I can do for you, even though you are not in range,this is a healthy number for a male your age. LOL.

    Doctors and HRT are the worst.
    Hey sir.

    I do not currently have a PCP because I moved. I am going to be trying to find one soon because my bp has been a bit high lately. I was going to see if I can get a low dose beta blocker.

    I am currently mid cycle. Is that something that a new doctor will want blood test results for?
    i am definitely gonna be looking for a male doctor as they seem much more understanding. Would you agree?

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