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    ĎLimitedí socialism is a necessary evil given the growing population but the left seems to be serving a much more socialist agenda.

    the green new deal even dictated who gets to own vehicles, how many, and who is forced to use mass transit. Almost implying where people can live. These people are nuts.

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    Pussy/insane libtards, trying to kill America w/ Mexicans, shit-skin muzzies and open borders. Really insane.
    Trump isnt deploding, libtards and those 4-whacky kuntz (AOC, etc) sure are though. Trump 2020, w/ ease...

    Kep Maerica safe/secure. Just look at UK and sweden, a muzzy murder/rape fest...

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    doesnt matter, its over. Trump changed the assylum law, immagrants can no longer use this loophole. While the people protesting and focusing on making a scene for the media Trump killed their dreams forever

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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler7 View Post
    doesnt matter, its over. Trump changed the assylum law, immagrants can no longer use this loophole. While the people protesting and focusing on making a scene for the media Trump killed their dreams forever
    please xplain, I missed this fantastic news

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFO3 View Post
    please xplain, I missed this fantastic news
    They changed the "rules" and not the law and it's being challenged in court. They have to apply for asylum in the 1st country they arrive at. If Mexico denies them asylum then they can apply with the US. Hopefully it will slow them down.

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    https://nypost.com/2019/07/21/trumps...perfect-sense/

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    Quote Originally Posted by randy4me View Post
    They changed the "rules" and not the law and it's being challenged in court. They have to apply for asylum in the 1st country they arrive at. If Mexico denies them asylum then they can apply with the US. Hopefully it will slow them down.

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    It sure should slow them down, if Mexico does their part.

    Here's an interesting summary on the UN migration pact.

    https://www.eurocanadian.ca/2018/11/...f-nations.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by randy4me View Post
    https://nypost.com/2019/07/21/trumps...perfect-sense/

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    I was just about to post that. yes if you flee your country and end up in mexico or UK you are no longer in danger and thus need to flee no further at which point you can apply like everyone else and wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFO3 View Post
    It sure should slow them down, if Mexico does their part.

    Here's an interesting summary on the UN migration pact.

    https://www.eurocanadian.ca/2018/11/...f-nations.html
    mexico already offered these people assylum yet they continued, proves its for economic reasons not safety

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milford King View Post
    FDR and Trump are very similar in there approach (Supreme Court justices being appointed for policy advancement- I get it)

    FDR didnít end the depression with his policies, WW2 did.

    FDR denied stalins reign of terror and supported communist advances into China (I get it, again WW2.)

    FDR wasnít a bad President but he wasnít the holy grail of presidency.

    But still, the Democratic Party back then isnít the democratic party today.

    FDR and Trump have different personalities but the approach is similar.
    It's pointless to separate out "FDR's policies" from "WW2". Both are massive gov't spending, the same Keynesian stimulus at heart for an under performing low-demand economy. Gov't spending, whether it's schools, highways, police, or blowing shit up with the military is all still gov't spending.

    Also, FDR's policies got us involved in WW2 as soon as possible, so one leads to the other: FDR's policies -> WW2. He was fighting huge internal opposition against involvement, i.e. Conservative isolationist movement. Nonetheless we supplied Britain with food and war materials long before the Pearl Harbor attack effectively smashed down the right wing isolationists from further influence, alongside pro-Nazi sympathizers as well.

    Funny, they never really went away did they? Trump brought that zombie out of the dungeon.

    So much to be proud of there.

    The massive WW2 spending surge put everyone to work, but other sorts of spending would do just as well (better in fact, since you get infrastructure out of it) -- look at post-WW2 Japan, Germany, or Costa Rica. Tiny to non-existent military, yet robust growth. Costa Rica in particular puts all its neighbors to shame. You do not need military spending for economic growth, although it can be an "easy mode" political solution when you have anti-gov't spending conservatives who somehow think massive military budgets are "ok" but nothing else.

    FDR and his New Deal gave us the Middle Class.

    Without his policies we'd still have Gilded Age oligarchic control of the economy, most people living in piss poor working class conditions, trailer parks, ghettos, etc... what the oligarchs are trying to bring back for us today. The golden age of middle class America was the 30's - 70's, each generation living much better than the one before. It's been eroding ever since. That gap between the lines in the graph is wealth that has been siphoned off nearly all wage-earners into the pockets of corporate ownership. The balance shifted, hence no more golden age.

    It's common for Liberals to blame Reagan for starting this trend -- and he certainly contributed mightily -- but it actually began in the early 70's, a decade before him and a product of much larger political forces than just one president or even one party.




    I have trouble seeing much similarity between FDR and Trump... that's a real reach. But Trump does (or did?) want to push through a massive $1 trillion infrastructure bill, and that's FDR-style socialist gov't expenditure all the way, for sure.

    You think the GOP will ever allow him to do it though? They had two years of full control (before losing the House in '18) and I only saw Trump get swatted down.

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    Oh, but ghee wiz, isnít globalization the goal? Suck us dry then go.... back to your shithole country, fatter. Lol

    this shit is pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milford King View Post
    Oh, but ghee wiz, globalization is the goal.

    this shit is pathetic.

    I concur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemalt View Post
    It's pointless to separate out "FDR's policies" from "WW2". Both are massive gov't spending, the same Keynesian stimulus at heart for an under performing low-demand economy. Gov't spending, whether it's schools, highways, police, or blowing shit up with the military is all still gov't spending.

    Also, FDR's policies got us involved in WW2 as soon as possible, so one leads to the other: FDR's policies -> WW2. He was fighting huge internal opposition against involvement, i.e. Conservative isolationist movement. Nonetheless we supplied Britain with food and war materials long before the Pearl Harbor attack effectively smashed down the right wing isolationists from further influence, alongside pro-Nazi sympathizers as well.

    Funny, they never really went away did they? Trump brought that zombie out of the dungeon.

    So much to be proud of there.

    The massive WW2 spending surge put everyone to work, but other sorts of spending would do just as well (better in fact, since you get infrastructure out of it) -- look at post-WW2 Japan, Germany, or Costa Rica. Tiny to non-existent military, yet robust growth. Costa Rica in particular puts all its neighbors to shame. You do not need military spending for economic growth, although it can be an "easy mode" political solution when you have anti-gov't spending conservatives who somehow think massive military budgets are "ok" but nothing else.

    FDR and his New Deal gave us the Middle Class.

    Without his policies we'd still have Gilded Age oligarchic control of the economy, most people living in piss poor working class conditions, trailer parks, ghettos, etc... what the oligarchs are trying to bring back for us today. The golden age of middle class America was the 30's - 70's, each generation living much better than the one before. It's been eroding ever since. That gap between the lines in the graph is wealth that has been siphoned off nearly all wage-earners into the pockets of corporate ownership. The balance shifted, hence no more golden age.

    It's common for Liberals to blame Reagan for starting this trend -- and he certainly contributed mightily -- but it actually began in the early 70's, a decade before him and a product of much larger political forces than just one president or even one party.




    I have trouble seeing much similarity between FDR and Trump... that's a real reach. But Trump does (or did?) want to push through a massive $1 trillion infrastructure bill, and that's FDR-style socialist gov't expenditure all the way, for sure.

    You think the GOP will ever allow him to do it though? They had two years of full control (before losing the House in '18) and I only saw Trump get swatted down.
    Lol didnít know you were a history teacher bro. I regress. You win. Iíll still vote trump 2020 and bitch about paying for abortions and other programs I donít agree with as well as providing for those that refuse to do for themselves.

    also nationalism isnít a crime, nor is it a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler7 View Post
    mexico already offered these people assylum yet they continued, proves its for economic reasons not safety
    Good god. Have you seen the murder rates in Honduras? Guatemala... El Savador? Take a look and have your eyes opened.

    Yes, it's economic reasons as well. Of course it is. It's both. Would you want to get murdered by street gangs in your home country, or be unable to find any decent paying work there? I'm guessing you'd want neither.

    Also, MX is not terribly safe either these days. Not as bad as those three countries on the southern border, but the Mexican "War on Drugs" is a very different beast than the one we have here in the US. 100,000+ killed in the last 13 years? Entire Mexican states beyond federal control? I stopped following it a while back. But anyway, if I were a Honduran on the march north I'd want to make it to Texas.

    That said, we can't let em all in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemalt View Post
    Good god. Have you seen the murder rates in Honduras? Guatemala... El Savador? Take a look and have your eyes opened.

    Yes, it's economic reasons as well. Of course it is. It's both. Would you want to get murdered by street gangs in your home country, or be unable to find any decent paying work there? I'm guessing you'd want neither.

    Also, MX is not terribly safe either these days. Not as bad as those three countries on the southern border, but the Mexican "War on Drugs" is a very different beast than the one we have here in the US. 100,000+ killed in the last 13 years? Entire Mexican states beyond federal control? I stopped following it a while back. But anyway, if I were a Honduran on the march north I'd want to make it to Texas.

    That said, we can't let em all in.
    which is why they should stay home... fix there own problems... like we did back in the day.

    Its not difficult.

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