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Why you should use Proviron or Masteron with Tren (the benefits) NEW LAB RESULTS 2-14-23

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HFO3 said:
Tren/mast/prop is a classic blast I wish I knew existed when I was about 10 years younger


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Same here.. I just wish I could use tren again, I may give it a good once I get things balanced out. I need to be on point. This combo is just amazing. I did have a great time with tren ace and NPP

I have some 300 cut mix on the way.. Tren ace/mast p/ test p/ I might run it and use NPP with it.. LOW doses tho of everything
 
Vision said:
Same here.. I just wish I could use tren again, I may give it a good once I get things balanced out. I need to be on point. This combo is just amazing. I did have a great time with tren ace and NPP

I have some 300 cut mix on the way.. Tren ace/mast p/ test p/ I might run it and use NPP with it.. LOW doses tho of everything
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I loved the low daily dose tren/mast/test. Was one of the times I "felt" the best too.
 
I missed this article the first time around. Great info!
 
just started new run of test prop 600 mg, mast e 400mg, and proviron 50mg. So glad that I did add proviron, and will now always add it, even with prescribed TRT.
 
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THEWIZARDOFKOZ said:
just started new run of test prop 600 mg, mast e 400mg, and proviron 50mg. So glad that I did add proviron, and will now always add it, even with prescribed TRT.
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It's fair to say I almost do not come off of it.. it has zero affect on the liver and there's plenty of information to support that. It's very mild but it's off label properties are absolutely amazing. It's happiness in a pill.
 
Vision said:
Let's hear some reasons why some people do not like proviron.. I wonder if any exists..
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I’ve tried it 3 times. 25mg/day, 50mg/day, 75mg/day. All with 250mg/week cruise dose of test. My sex drive went straight to the shitter. It has never proven to me to be worth a damn.

All three times were from reputable labs. Including PSL
 
Canebrake said:
I’ve tried it 3 times. 25mg/day, 50mg/day, 75mg/day. All with 250mg/week cruise dose of test. My sex drive went straight to the shitter. It has never proven to me to be worth a damn.

All three times were from reputable labs. Including PSL
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Mast is the way to go for you for sure than, if proviron didn't treat you right. Mast is a beast IMO, best additional tool out there for just about every occasion with TRT, cycling, cruising and so on.

If I recall, even HCG didn't treat you right either in regards to increasing libido while "ON" or cruising?!?

This is why mast is king.
 
Proviron is my single favorite compliment to testosterone; then gh and 5mg Cialis . An incredible compound that should be considered to be approved US. So many off-label reasons to prescribe. It is like adding coarse salt to your Ribeye !!

Max
#proviluv
 
maxmuscle1 said:
Proviron is my single favorite compliment to testosterone; then gh and 5mg Cialis . An incredible compound that should be considered to be approved US. So many off-label reasons to prescribe. It is like adding coarse salt to your Ribeye !!

Max
#proviluv
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Man I can literally count on one hand how many people but I've heard report little to no effects, and I've heard very few State any adverse effects.
One guy proclaimed that it shut him down hard. Which anything is possible but there's overwhelming evidence that it will not do such a thing. Well at least not in the Great higher percentage of users.
 
Vision said:
Mast is the way to go for you for sure than, if proviron didn't treat you right. Mast is a beast IMO, best additional tool out there for just about every occasion with TRT, cycling, cruising and so on.

If I recall, even HCG didn't treat you right either in regards to increasing libido while "ON" or cruising?!?

This is why mast is king.
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Correct. HCG didn’t do much as well. I’ve never used mast without running Tren and always made my Tren runs a thousand times better
 
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Mesterolone as an anti-depressant even as INJECTION form.. That's right, Mesterolone was once used anti-depressant in INJECTION form, as mostof us know it was used in the oral application for the same intent..
One will argue that Masteron (Drostanolone) is the same, it's NOT..

Here's some old info that we all may know, yet below is some info about it's short term use in oily form..

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The German hormone manufacturer Schering did tests in the seventies on an injectable analogue of the anabolic steroid mesterolone, the active substance in Proviron. We, the industrious compilers of this free webzine, discovered this friday afternoon when we were browsing through patents. Researchers at Schering gave mesterolone cypionate and classic mesterolone to men suffering from depression – and the results were promising.
Mesterolone
Mesterolone resembles DHT, the androgen metabolite of testosterone. The difference with DHT is that mesterolone has a methyl group on C1 and DHT does not. The methyl group makes mesterolone into a very mild steroid. So mild that, according to studies done in the 1970s, oral doses of 75-150 g daily have a negligible effect on the body's own testosterone synthesis.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/4418512/



At the same time the 1-alpha-methyl group inhibits enzymes that neutralise mesterolone in the body. That's why mesterolone can be taken orally.
Most handbooks say that mesterolone is too mild for male steroids users. In the past steroids users have taken mesterolone as an anti-oestrogen but without much success, and to restart the body's own testosterone production after a course of steroids - with even less success.
Mesterolone as an anti-depressant

​In the 1980s researchers at Schering published a couple of studies in which they had got small groups of men suffering from depression to take 300-450 mg mesterolone daily for a period of six weeks.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6431212/
This treatment was successful in most of the subjects.

In another study the researchers compared mesterolone with the anti-depressant amitriptyline.
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3880735/
http://According to the researchers...tive, but mesterolone had fewer side effects.

Mesterolone cypionate
Schering's research on the anti-depressive effect of mesterolone started in the 1970s, as the discovery of a patent dating from 1974 shows.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3908007

In that patent the researchers explicitly mention mesterolone and its esters, one of which was named mesterolone cypionate [structural formula shown below].
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According to the patent, mesterolone cypionate is particularly suitable for oral use, but can be injected too.
The patent also happens to cover the use of nearly all possible analogues of mesterolone as anti-depressants. The figure below gives an idea of the dosages that the researchers used.
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Mesterolone as a stimulant
According to the patent, the researchers administered mesterolone and its esters to subjects in both low and high dosages. The high dosages, shown above, had an anti-depressant effect, and the low dosages a stimulatory effect. The stimulatory dose for mesterolone administered orally lies somewhere between 1 and 20 mg, according to the patent.
"It has now been found that mesterolone and its esters exhibit a psychostimulating effect at lower doses", the researchers wrote. "The desired psychotropic and CNS-stimulating effects of mesterolone occur within 2-3 hours after administration."
Source:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3908007


 
Love 3x a day on a blast ! Provi that is !

Max
 
HFO3 said:
Masteron VS proviron = YES one at 300 (min) a week and the other at 75 a day
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Altenator_6 said:
Mast and Proviron...... Love em both!
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Both of these beauties combined are absolutely amazing, and you really don't need much of either one of them, they complement each other so well.
People like to argue that they are one and the same, they are not, they may have similarities but they are very different. Yet together they are extremely complimentary.
 
Vision said:
Both of these beauties combined are absolutely amazing, and you really don't need much of either one of them, they complement each other so well.
People like to argue that they are one and the same, they are not, they may have similarities but they are very different. Yet together they are extremely complimentary.
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I agree I use both currently and have for a while now, I love the combination
 
Agree 100% Vision and I was taking proviron when running the PSL GOLD CUT MIX 300. The only thing I would add is GW. It did wonders when it came to cardio. Did one hour everyday without issues while on the mix for 8 weeks.

Great post again.
 
Wiseguy said:
Agree 100% Vision and I was taking proviron when running the PSL GOLD CUT MIX 300. The only thing I would add is GW. It did wonders when it came to cardio. Did one hour everyday without issues while on the mix for 8 weeks.

Great post again.
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Truly this does help mitigate some of the side effects.
Plus with the addition of GW cardio doesn't have to take a hit, you feel good all the way around..
Soon I'll be adding Meldonium with GW on my next tren run .. Improves cardio, stamina, I'll be needing it..
 
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