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    How to test Testosterone Cyp/Enan

    How to test Testosterone Cypionate or Enanthate

    The following protocols must be followed exactly for at least 4 weeks. No other gear or ancillaries may be used during the first 4 weeks. If you have been on either dose for longer than 4 weeks you may get labs 7 days after your last injection.

    All injections must be intramuscular (IM). The first week is a front-load.

    Testing Protocol - (for labs that only range up to 1,500ng/dl):

    Day 1. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 3. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 7. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 14. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 21. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 28. Total Testosterone Blood Draw (must be exactly 7 days after last inject)

    Post lab results once you receive them. Please be specific about the dose, ester and protocol you used in your first post.

    Passing results should be about 1,345 ng/dl +or- 139 ng/dl. Due to the crude nature of this protocol, passing results may vary greatly.

    Testing Protocol #2 - (for labs that range ABOVE 1,500ng/dL):

    Day 1. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 3. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 7. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 14. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 21. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 28. Total Testosterone Blood Draw (must be exactly 7 days after last inject)

    Passing results should be about 2,370 ng/dl +or- 150ng/dl. Due to the crude nature of this protocol, passing results may vary greatly.

    Failure to follow protocol exactly will result in useless results.

    Reference Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men

    Pharmacokinetics of Testosterone cypionate Injection

    Source: Schulte-Beerbuhl, 1980 Figure. Pharmacokinetics of 200mg Testosterone cypionate injection. Source: Comparison of Testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone in serum after injection of Testosterone enanthate or Testosterone cypionate. Schulte-Beerbuhl M, Nieschlag E. Fertility and Sterility 33 (1980) 201-3.

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    So will this be the new standard for this forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drealdeal View Post
    So will this be the new standard for this forum?

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    This was the previous protocol. Just re posted it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    This was the previous protocol. Just re posted it
    I had no idea...i always followed the 10wk proto thatt Heavy posted some time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drealdeal View Post
    I had no idea...i always followed the 10wk proto thatt Heavy posted some time ago.

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    This is the one that's been used since I've been here.

    Never saw a ten week one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    This is the one that's been used since I've been here.

    Never saw a ten week one.
    Shit i fucked up...i read it way wrong and your absolutely right

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    All Pharma grade test was used to create this standard and I believe that's important to keep in mind.

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    This protocol is assuming once per week injections. Not too many people i know pin once/week more often broken up twice or EOD in some instances. Pulling bloods 7 days post your last injection wont be accurate since you would be measuring the trough of one half or one third of your weekly protocol. Agreed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dale View Post
    This protocol is assuming once per week injections. Not too many people i know pin once/week more often broken up twice or EOD in some instances. Pulling bloods 7 days post your last injection wont be accurate since you would be measuring the trough of one half or one third of your weekly protocol. Agreed?
    The protocol is simply in place since it was used as a scientific controlled study taking out all variables.

    And yes, it would still be accurate 7 days post injection since that's when all the bloods were pulled in this test.

    Also, 7 days post injection is not only testing the dose of the testosterone, it's also making sure the right ester was attached since shorter esters would clear faster resulting in a lower score possibly as well.

    If you don't follow this protocol, you can still use your own bloods to make comparisons given the testosterone you took was properly dosed and the variables were the same.

    But no, this test will provide accurate results 7 days after your last injection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    How to test Testosterone Cypionate or Enanthate

    The following protocols must be followed exactly for at least 4 weeks. No other gear or ancillaries may be used during the first 4 weeks. If you have been on either dose for longer than 4 weeks you may get labs 7 days after your last injection.

    All injections must be intramuscular (IM). The first week is a front-load.

    Testing Protocol - (for labs that only range up to 1,500ng/dl):

    Day 1. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 3. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 7. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 14. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 21. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 28. Total Testosterone Blood Draw (must be exactly 7 days after last inject)

    Post lab results once you receive them. Please be specific about the dose, ester and protocol you used in your first post.

    Passing results should be about 1,345 ng/dl +or- 139 ng/dl. Due to the crude nature of this protocol, passing results may vary greatly.

    Testing Protocol #2 - (for labs that range ABOVE 1,500ng/dL):

    Day 1. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 3. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 7. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 14. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 21. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 28. Total Testosterone Blood Draw (must be exactly 7 days after last inject)

    Passing results should be about 2,370 ng/dl +or- 150ng/dl. Due to the crude nature of this protocol, passing results may vary greatly.

    Failure to follow protocol exactly will result in useless results.

    Reference Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men

    Pharmacokinetics of Testosterone cypionate Injection

    Source: Schulte-Beerbuhl, 1980 Figure. Pharmacokinetics of 200mg Testosterone cypionate injection. Source: Comparison of Testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone in serum after injection of Testosterone enanthate or Testosterone cypionate. Schulte-Beerbuhl M, Nieschlag E. Fertility and Sterility 33 (1980) 201-3.
    Thought Id bump this......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    How to test Testosterone Cypionate or Enanthate

    The following protocols must be followed exactly for at least 4 weeks. No other gear or ancillaries may be used during the first 4 weeks. If you have been on either dose for longer than 4 weeks you may get labs 7 days after your last injection.

    All injections must be intramuscular (IM). The first week is a front-load.

    Testing Protocol - (for labs that only range up to 1,500ng/dl):

    Day 1. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 3. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 7. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 14. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 21. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 28. Total Testosterone Blood Draw (must be exactly 7 days after last inject)

    Post lab results once you receive them. Please be specific about the dose, ester and protocol you used in your first post.

    Passing results should be about 1,345 ng/dl +or- 139 ng/dl. Due to the crude nature of this protocol, passing results may vary greatly.

    Testing Protocol #2 - (for labs that range ABOVE 1,500ng/dL):

    Day 1. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 3. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 7. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 14. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 21. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 28. Total Testosterone Blood Draw (must be exactly 7 days after last inject)

    Passing results should be about 2,370 ng/dl +or- 150ng/dl. Due to the crude nature of this protocol, passing results may vary greatly.

    Failure to follow protocol exactly will result in useless results.

    Reference Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men

    Pharmacokinetics of Testosterone cypionate Injection

    Source: Schulte-Beerbuhl, 1980 Figure. Pharmacokinetics of 200mg Testosterone cypionate injection. Source: Comparison of Testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone in serum after injection of Testosterone enanthate or Testosterone cypionate. Schulte-Beerbuhl M, Nieschlag E. Fertility and Sterility 33 (1980) 201-3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    How to test Testosterone Cypionate or Enanthate

    The following protocols must be followed exactly for at least 4 weeks. No other gear or ancillaries may be used during the first 4 weeks. If you have been on either dose for longer than 4 weeks you may get labs 7 days after your last injection.

    All injections must be intramuscular (IM). The first week is a front-load.

    Testing Protocol - (for labs that only range up to 1,500ng/dl):

    Day 1. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 3. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 7. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 14. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 21. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 28. Total Testosterone Blood Draw (must be exactly 7 days after last inject)

    Post lab results once you receive them. Please be specific about the dose, ester and protocol you used in your first post.

    Passing results should be about 1,345 ng/dl +or- 139 ng/dl. Due to the crude nature of this protocol, passing results may vary greatly.

    Testing Protocol #2 - (for labs that range ABOVE 1,500ng/dL):

    Day 1. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 3. 300mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 7. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 14. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 21. 600mg Cypionate or Enanthate

    Day 28. Total Testosterone Blood Draw (must be exactly 7 days after last inject)

    Passing results should be about 2,370 ng/dl +or- 150ng/dl. Due to the crude nature of this protocol, passing results may vary greatly.

    Failure to follow protocol exactly will result in useless results.

    Reference Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men

    Pharmacokinetics of Testosterone cypionate Injection

    Source: Schulte-Beerbuhl, 1980 Figure. Pharmacokinetics of 200mg Testosterone cypionate injection. Source: Comparison of Testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone in serum after injection of Testosterone enanthate or Testosterone cypionate. Schulte-Beerbuhl M, Nieschlag E. Fertility and Sterility 33 (1980) 201-3.
    Whats the math being to get 2,370ng/dl for 600mg of Test C or E? 4:1 ratio? Just curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    The protocol is simply in place since it was used as a scientific controlled study taking out all variables.

    And yes, it would still be accurate 7 days post injection since that's when all the bloods were pulled in this test.

    Also, 7 days post injection is not only testing the dose of the testosterone, it's also making sure the right ester was attached since shorter esters would clear faster resulting in a lower score possibly as well.

    If you don't follow this protocol, you can still use your own bloods to make comparisons given the testosterone you took was properly dosed and the variables were the same.

    But no, this test will provide accurate results 7 days after your last injection.
    I know this is an old thread and I apologize for that. However I actually just got a prescription today June 17th, and they want me to do 200mg every 14 days and get my bloods done 7 days after my next shot witch is on July 1st. So on July 8th. What the hell is that going to tell them? What I mean is isn't that a little early to be looking at any results. So they want them done 3 weeks after I've been on the test C.

    Sorry if it doesn't make sense I'll try one more time.lol so basically what I'm asking you is what do you think the number should be when taking 200mg of Test C today, then again in 14 days, and getting bloods done 7 days after that? Also my baseline was 286 if that matters. Thx brother....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmills View Post
    I know this is an old thread and I apologize for that. However I actually just got a prescription today June 17th, and they want me to do 200mg every 14 days and get my bloods done 7 days after my next shot witch is on July 1st. So on July 8th. What the hell is that going to tell them? What I mean is isn't that a little early to be looking at any results. So they want them done 3 weeks after I've been on the test C.

    Sorry if it doesn't make sense I'll try one more time.lol so basically what I'm asking you is what do you think the number should be when taking 200mg of Test C today, then again in 14 days, and getting bloods done 7 days after that? Also my baseline was 286 if that matters. Thx brother....

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    No it doesn't make sense but, that's typical of trt these days.

    They want you mid low Normal. You'll be low normal most likely.

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    You mean low normal when I get my bloods done in 4 weeks because he's saying that he wants my test levels to be around 11 or 1200. I know 1100 is in range still , but I'll be more than happy with that.

    What the hell they're going to be able to tell by looking at blood work for weeks from now Besides maybe to see if i need a AI or not. However he already gave me Arimadex. but said if I wanted he would give me Aromasin. I got lucky finding this guy.

    Yea there not that smart because he gave me Arimadex and told me to take 1 every 7 to 10 days. I had to stop myself from laughing...

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