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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Here's a topic suggestion..... high dosing to obtain larger mass (all compounds included and duration) .... and low dosing to retain mass. ... are larger dosages required to gain overall size.... and can smaller dosages afterwards be sufficient to retain acquired mass?.....

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    How guys warm up before training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagosterone View Post
    Here's a topic suggestion..... high dosing to obtain larger mass (all compounds included and duration) .... and low dosing to retain mass. ... are larger dosages required to gain overall size.... and can smaller dosages afterwards be sufficient to retain acquired mass?.....

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    Basically the topic of blasting and cruising..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
    Basically the topic of blasting and cruising..
    Is it though?...a year blast or two, to obtain muscle maturity, mass, size... and from there maintenance dosing to retain.... versus 500 mgs plus various compounds 3 to 4months out of the year only to go back into ... cruise or pct...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagosterone View Post
    Is it though?...a year blast or two, to obtain muscle maturity, mass, size... and from there maintenance dosing to retain.... versus 500 mgs plus various compounds 3 to 4months out of the year only to go back into ... cruise or pct...?

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    Nope nope nope... I won't even attempt to give any of my opinions on those questions unless this is created in a thread, I don't want to hijack this thread.. but I love those questions!
    That is a good topic (dreaming)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
    Basically the topic of blasting and cruising..
    I'm willing to bet most of the larger fellas are taking more shit for longer periods than they are willing to admit....blast and cruise is not the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagosterone View Post
    I'm willing to bet most of the larger fellas are taking more shit for longer periods than they are willing to admit....blast and cruise is not the same.

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    I'll tell you this much your theory or speculation for that matter is somewhat true with some, the blasting can be a lot higher, and the cruising can be a lot higher than people would normally run.. I've seen some cruises be considered a moderate cycle for some people..
    It's very common to basically just stay on and switch hit, changing compounds around.. some guys do it out of boredom and other guys do it deliberately for shock value..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
    I'll tell you this much your theory or speculation for that matter is somewhat true with some, the blasting can be a lot higher, and the cruising can be a lot higher than people would normally run.. I've seen some cruises be considered a moderate cycle for some people..
    It's very common to basically just stay on and switch hit, changing compounds around.. some guys do it out of boredom and other guys do it deliberately for shock value..
    With some? Common! To much bullshit is being spewed....diet can be on point.... drugs create size... end of story. Why is everyone so afraid to talk about it. I'm pretty sure the quest for size comes with alot more factors than dieting and cycling.... I'm almost certain at this point... if all bloods check out, guys are staying on longer and longer. And my point is, once your size is acquired can you lower the dosages to reasonable, sustainable levels to stay healthy and huge? Eh ... whatever it's just a suggestion.. that i think could create conversation....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
    I'll tell you this much your theory or speculation for that matter is somewhat true with some, the blasting can be a lot higher, and the cruising can be a lot higher than people would normally run.. I've seen some cruises be considered a moderate cycle for some people..
    It's very common to basically just stay on and switch hit, changing compounds around.. some guys do it out of boredom and other guys do it deliberately for shock value..
    Appreciate your feed back vision, i don't mean to be condescending... simply just trying to suggest a topic that i believe should be discussed... hopefully Monte will contemplate on weather its a worthy topic....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagosterone View Post
    With some? Common! To much bullshit is being spewed....diet can be on point.... drugs create size... end of story. Why is everyone so afraid to talk about it. I'm pretty sure the quest for size comes with alot more factors than dieting and cycling.... I'm almost certain at this point... if all bloods check out, guys are staying on longer and longer. And my point is, once your size is acquired can you lower the dosages to reasonable, sustainable levels to stay healthy and huge? Eh ... whatever it's just a suggestion.. that i think could create conversation....

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    I'm dead serious when I say the word some..because I know some gorillas that are just absolutely retarded with what they do at the same time I know other guys that just run this or that but they've been on the grind a good 20 years man they earned everything they put on.. I know guys that are seriously bigger than the pros, maybe not as etched and dialed-in of course but they definitely got some fucking crazy size bro, and there nothing but meat heads.. a lot of them just run crazy amounts of test and hgh with slin.. it's not really a matter at the end of the day of running crazy high amounts of gear but rather just not coming off. And constantly switching shit.. but I definitely agree there is those that use insane amounts of gear man..

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagosterone View Post
    Appreciate your feed back vision, i don't mean to be condescending... simply just trying to suggest a topic that i believe should be discussed... hopefully Monte will contemplate on weather its a worthy topic....

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    I didn't take it that way at all bro if anything I just take it that you're very passionate about how you feel on the topic, if someone is very passionate but how they feel about something I'll never take that away from them.. because like I said you are correct but just with my experience and people within my circle I know we could be hit or miss when it concerns unnecessary amounts of gear verse guys just abusing the fuck out of shit, verse just switching up compounds.. when guys have been doing this for a long time it's almost like trying to teach an old carpenter new trick, a sixty-year-old Carpenter is not going to listen to a damn thing you say when he's set in his ways.. you know what I'm saying, I'm talking about the kind of carpenter that always knows where his pencils at and has everything in a particular spot like OCD.. that's how a lot of these dudes are, it's not always monkey see monkey do but more less what works for them..
    There's a guy I know that's in his mid-fifties and he's been an animal for the past God knows how long I've known him, and I mentioned some products to him especially primobolan and he's telling me that's beginner.. I've even offered him a few blends that I had laying around, he said what the fuck are those?? This guy will only run test and eq and var, you got to see him man he looks fucking insane.. he's been in this game a long time but yet his thought process is like the Stone age.. in the late 90s and early 2000s he made a name for himself for a little while..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
    I didn't take it that way at all bro if anything I just take it that you're very passionate about how you feel on the topic, if someone is very passionate but how they feel about something I'll never take that away from them.. because like I said you are correct but just with my experience and people within my circle I know we could be hit or miss when it concerns unnecessary amounts of gear verse guys just abusing the fuck out of shit, verse just switching up compounds.. when guys have been doing this for a long time it's almost like trying to teach an old carpenter new trick, a sixty-year-old Carpenter is not going to listen to a damn thing you say when he's set in his ways.. you know what I'm saying, I'm talking about the kind of carpenter that always knows where his pencils at and has everything in a particular spot like OCD.. that's how a lot of these dudes are, it's not always monkey see monkey do but more less what works for them..
    There's a guy I know that's in his mid-fifties and he's been an animal for the past God knows how long I've known him, and I mentioned some products to him especially primobolan and he's telling me that's beginner.. I've even offered him a few blends that I had laying around, he said what the fuck are those?? This guy will only run test and eq and var, you got to see him man he looks fucking insane.. he's been in this game a long time but yet his thought process is like the Stone age.. in the late 90s and early 2000s he made a name for himself for a little while..
    And yet through our minimal conversation.... we've constructed quit the convo..... where's Monte... can we get this "ARTz TOPIC" APPROVED OR NOT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagosterone View Post
    And yet through our minimal conversation.... we've constructed quit the convo..... where's Monte... can we get this "ARTz TOPIC" APPROVED OR NOT?

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    I've got more to say...... I'll talk about the rhino who taught me...i was always just to afraid to crossover to the dark side....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagosterone View Post
    And yet through our minimal conversation.... we've constructed quit the convo..... where's Monte... can we get this "ARTz TOPIC" APPROVED OR NOT?

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    Sure. Let's give the current topic a chance to run it's course first though

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