For me , I’ve always been extremely depleted when on it like last 4 weeks before the show so strength gains not really for me but helped me stay at where I was while taking in less calories and being in such a lean state. I like the gardening effect on the body no doubt. It makes my vascularity more pronounced etc. I won’t knock it necessarily however for the cost / strength ratio of the anabolic I prefer winstrol. Anavar is by no means useless however it is pricey , I can get winstrol cheaper and for me better results but Anavar is a little less harsh and if older and joint issues winstrol may not be a viable option so in the right scenario/ situation it has its place no doubt. I like the look it’s a nice hard look but I don’t get quite as freaky looking as with winstrol. If anavar was more cost effective I might use it more but for bang for the buck and go my situation id take oral winny over it but that doesn’t mean for someone else’s situation that var wouldn’t be a good and viable option. A lot also depends on what you are running and have run in past. 40-60 mg of var for someone used to running 50-100 mg of winstrol may not have the same effect as someone running 40-60 var that hasn’t run an oral before or that is used to more moderate dosages. A lot depends on past experience , current goal, current limitations or risks health wise, age wise , joint wise etc . It all has to be taken into account when taking any compound to weigh the pros and cons and how it’s going to help you achieve your intended goal but it certainly has a place and isn’t a waste . Just pricey for what it is for me , but a viable and very effective option for others .