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    Prop vs. Dbol as a kicker (beginner cycle)

    What would you guys prefer as a kicker In your cycle Prop vs. Dbol as a kicker (beginner cycle)

    I was leaning towards Prop to make things easier but unless you get good gear you get PIP, but the pumps and energy you get in the gym from Dbol really makes my decision harder.

    What do you guys prefer?

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    Prop vs. Dbol as a kicker (beginner cycle)

    In reality they are doing two very different things. It depends on what your going for. I personally love dbol so I usually kick w dbol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicious 13 View Post
    In reality they are doing two very different things. It depends on what your going for. I personally love dbol so I usually kick w dbol
    Yes I understand that, Dbol is for bulking and often you get a little bloat, and prop is sometimes used to cut. I was just saying prop because it is a shorter ester so in the first 5 weeks of my cycle I will be building and seeing results

    I like the benefits of dbol but the fact that its methylated sucks cause I enjoy going out and having a few beers from time to time but five weeks is nothing ill just take some liv52 and stay in and get some sleep...zzz

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    Prop vs. Dbol as a kicker (beginner cycle)

    I drink on the weekends while running dbol Im not saying do it but I've never had an issue

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    Why not run both

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    Quote Originally Posted by gspot442 View Post
    Why not run both
    This is my first cycle and I am trying not to go overboard I think I will see good enough gains with 500mg test E a week with a kicker also with proper pct. I was gonna bump it up with my second maybe try a different compound.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vicious 13 View Post
    I drink on the weekends while running dbol Im not saying do it but I've never had an issue
    no yellow eyes or high liver values?? did u take any liver support supp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gspot442 View Post
    Why not run both
    ^^^^Now that's a sweet kick start^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raped Ape View Post
    Yes I understand that, Dbol is for bulking and often you get a little bloat, and prop is sometimes used to cut. I was just saying prop because it is a shorter ester so in the first 5 weeks of my cycle I will be building and seeing results

    I like the benefits of dbol but the fact that its methylated sucks cause I enjoy going out and having a few beers from time to time but five weeks is nothing ill just take some liv52 and stay in and get some sleep...zzz
    Bear in mind that dbol has a 4 hr half life, so if you do your drinking 8+ hrs after dosing you should have much lower liver stress than otherwise. That's what I tell myself anyway.

    Nothing replaces bloodwork monitoring though.

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    What dosage are.you planning on running the dbol? Im.going to be doing the same thing in about a month.

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    Prop vs. Dbol as a kicker (beginner cycle)

    No liv support get bloods regularly never bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemalt View Post
    Bear in mind that dbol has a 4 hr half life, so if you do your drinking 8+ hrs after dosing you should have much lower liver stress than otherwise. That's what I tell myself anyway.

    Nothing replaces bloodwork monitoring though.
    with a half life of 4 hours should I split the dosage to two 15mg or 25mg (whichever I decide to run) doses ED. What is the active life of DBOL?

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtymic1987 View Post
    What dosage are.you planning on running the dbol? Im.going to be doing the same thing in about a month.
    I want to start with 30 and work to 50 or if 30 isn't enough just do 50mg ED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicious 13 View Post
    No liv support get bloods regularly never bad
    I know this sounds really stupid and naive but I don't have the resources or $ to get frequent bloods done unless it was an absolute must(if I thought something was wrong, or after pct) even if It was free it would be hard to find the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raped Ape View Post
    with a half life of 4 hours should I split the dosage to two 15mg or 25mg (whichever I decide to run) doses ED. What is the active life of DBOL?
    I haven't found any authoritative "right" answers to that but for keeping peace with the liver I decided to go with 25mg in the morning then another 25mg an hour before the gym. Not on it atm but missing it badly...

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    Prop vs. Dbol as a kicker (beginner cycle)

    Honestly bro i think you'd b fine but better safe than sorry

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    Since it's your first cycle I would go dbol/test and keep it simple.

    Second cycle go prop kick start with dbol the last 4 weeks. Learned that from an old vet and it's awesome! Gains slow around the 8/9 week mark and dbol will help you push through.

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