ForemanDan
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higher doses for longer time.
But ya know
When you run orals, do you prefer to use lower doses for a longer period of time or higher doses for a shorter period of time? Does your preference depend on which oral it is?
For example, would you rather run 50mg of dbol for 3 weeks or 25mg for 6 weeks? Why?
I've ran low dose Dbol at 10mg pre workout for 6 months...great results.
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No doubt lower for longer. I hate these 4 {or even 6 week cycles of anadrol or dbol, they don't make sense to me. That's when the oral is really starting to kick, why stop it?? I understand the whole Kickstart the cycle thing then drop it once the test and whatever else your taking starts working. But it's really because people are so scared by what they read they think the stuff is like poison. Orals are not as toxic as made our to be(my opinion), not even close. If they were I would be dead of liver failure before I turned 30 and I'm 45 with perfect liver function. I think the best way to use orals is something like 6 weeks anadrol at 50 Mgs followed by 6 weeks dbol at up to 40mgs then back to the anadrol and so on until you want to stop your cycle. No, I don't think 12-16 weeks is too long. Anyway, just my opinion, not a doctor, pharmacist or scientist. Just a guy whose been around the bodybuilding scene at a pretty high level for near 30 years and has seen just about everything drug wise.When you run orals, do you prefer to use lower doses for a longer period of time or higher doses for a shorter period of time? Does your preference depend on which oral it is?
For example, would you rather run 50mg of dbol for 3 weeks or 25mg for 6 weeks? Why?
Orals aren't as harsh as everyone says when taken at moderate dosages, I totally agree. The problem is that guys run them at absurd doses (200mg anadrol, 100mg dbol, etc) and that definitely is hard on the liver. I know a guy locally who has to take some kind of meds to keep his liver halfway healthy because he ran higher dosed orals for like six months straight lol. He also has permanent kidney damage. I'm sure he never drank enough water to flush his system either. That's the other hand of this stuff.No doubt lower for longer. I hate these 4 {or even 6 week cycles of anadrol or dbol, they don't make sense to me. That's when the oral is really starting to kick, why stop it?? I understand the whole Kickstart the cycle thing then drop it once the test and whatever else your taking starts working. But it's really because people are so scared by what they read they think the stuff is like poison. Orals are not as toxic as made our to be(my opinion), not even close. If they were I would be dead of liver failure before I turned 30 and I'm 45 with perfect liver function. I think the best way to use orals is something like 6 weeks anadrol at 50 Mgs followed by 6 weeks dbol at up to 40mgs then back to the anadrol and so on until you want to stop your cycle. No, I don't think 12-16 weeks is too long. Anyway, just my opinion, not a doctor, pharmacist or scientist. Just a guy whose been around the bodybuilding scene at a pretty high level for near 30 years and has seen just about everything drug wise.
Exactly, keep the doses reasonable. I never went above 50mgs anadrol or 40 Mgs dbol. I know, I've seen guys on 8 anadrol a day(seriouly) that's 400 Mgs a day! You could see the guys blood pressure was crazy high just by what he looked like. Hard to explain but face all red and strange looking. I once tried upping the anadrol, I handled 75mgs pretty well but on 100 my blood pressure went way up and I started getting nose bleeds several times a day(like 4-5 times every day) That's not a good sign. Lowered back to 50mgs, was fine again, never went above 50 again.Orals aren't as harsh as everyone says when taken at moderate dosages, I totally agree. The problem is that guys run them at absurd doses (200mg anadrol, 100mg dbol, etc) and that definitely is hard on the liver. I know a guy locally who has to take some kind of meds to keep his liver halfway healthy because he ran higher dosed orals for like six months straight lol. He also has permanent kidney damage. I'm sure he never drank enough water to flush his system either. That's the other hand of this stuff.
But yeah I totally agree about dropping the orals when they're really starting to kick. I've done it, that's why I like lower dose for a longer period. Then you really get the synergy of the combination with your test and whatever else for the rest of the blast.
Are you loggin that shit?I don't do things half-assed, so in my opinion long cycles require more discipline and motivation, especially since gainz slow down at about week 6. This can only be avoided by increasing doses or swapping / adding compounds. So a low doses cycle slowly turns into a high doses blast.
I am a fan of med lenght 6 to 8 weeks intense cycles. IMO they yield better results in shorter period of time with less sides.
Here is my current stack - after 13 months off AAS and Total Test of a teenage girl I decided to finally pin some Test E and Tren H.
I am no longer natty, half-natty, fake-natty or whatever I could be classified as.
Wk 1
Test E 580mg ew
Tren H 230mg ew
50mg Proviron ed
50mg Anabol ed
20mg Stanozol ed
Wk 2
Test E 580mg ew
Tren H 280mg ew
50mg Proviron ed
100mg Anabol ed
20mg Stanozol ed
Wk 3 & 4
Test E 700mg ew
Tren H 280mg ew
50mg Proviron ed
40mg Anavar ed
40mg Stanozol ed
Wk 5 & 6
Test Base 350mg
Tren Base 350mg
50mg Proviron ed
60mg Anavar ed
40mg Stanozol ed
Ancillaries
HCG 300IU e2d
Adex 1mg e2d
Caber 0.5mg e3d
Cialis 10m e3d