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    Short High Dose or Long Low Dose Orals

    When you run orals, do you prefer to use lower doses for a longer period of time or higher doses for a shorter period of time? Does your preference depend on which oral it is?

    For example, would you rather run 50mg of dbol for 3 weeks or 25mg for 6 weeks? Why?

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    Higher doses for longer time.

    But ya know

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokthan View Post
    higher doses for longer time.

    But ya know
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    In the past I preferred lower doses for longer times. With dbol, one of my favorite orals, I liked to run 20-25 for eight weeks. I also preferred using short esters for blasts as well, so my blasts were usually around eight-10 weeks and I'd run the orals the whole time. It worked for me back then. I seemed to get about the same amount of gains from either method, but they seemed easier to maintain on cruise when I ran less for longer. I think this is more of a personal preference though.

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    Short High Dose or Long Low Dose Orals

    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanDan View Post
    When you run orals, do you prefer to use lower doses for a longer period of time or higher doses for a shorter period of time? Does your preference depend on which oral it is?

    For example, would you rather run 50mg of dbol for 3 weeks or 25mg for 6 weeks? Why?
    I've ran low dose Dbol at 10mg pre workout for 6 months...great results.


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    I prefer medium/high dosage with medium length run.

    If I take an oral I really like to deeply fuckin feel the effects. You know like getting those skin bursting pumps when you arent even in the gym kinda shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldog View Post
    I've ran low dose Dbol at 10mg pre workout for 6 months...great results.


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    Lower dose longer for me

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    I like big doses for a short time. I respond pretty quick and most seem to blunt my appetite with extended use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanDan View Post
    When you run orals, do you prefer to use lower doses for a longer period of time or higher doses for a shorter period of time? Does your preference depend on which oral it is?

    For example, would you rather run 50mg of dbol for 3 weeks or 25mg for 6 weeks? Why?
    No doubt lower for longer. I hate these 4 {or even 6 week cycles of anadrol or dbol, they don't make sense to me. That's when the oral is really starting to kick, why stop it?? I understand the whole Kickstart the cycle thing then drop it once the test and whatever else your taking starts working. But it's really because people are so scared by what they read they think the stuff is like poison. Orals are not as toxic as made our to be(my opinion), not even close. If they were I would be dead of liver failure before I turned 30 and I'm 45 with perfect liver function. I think the best way to use orals is something like 6 weeks anadrol at 50 Mgs followed by 6 weeks dbol at up to 40mgs then back to the anadrol and so on until you want to stop your cycle. No, I don't think 12-16 weeks is too long. Anyway, just my opinion, not a doctor, pharmacist or scientist. Just a guy whose been around the bodybuilding scene at a pretty high level for near 30 years and has seen just about everything drug wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southbeach1 View Post
    No doubt lower for longer. I hate these 4 {or even 6 week cycles of anadrol or dbol, they don't make sense to me. That's when the oral is really starting to kick, why stop it?? I understand the whole Kickstart the cycle thing then drop it once the test and whatever else your taking starts working. But it's really because people are so scared by what they read they think the stuff is like poison. Orals are not as toxic as made our to be(my opinion), not even close. If they were I would be dead of liver failure before I turned 30 and I'm 45 with perfect liver function. I think the best way to use orals is something like 6 weeks anadrol at 50 Mgs followed by 6 weeks dbol at up to 40mgs then back to the anadrol and so on until you want to stop your cycle. No, I don't think 12-16 weeks is too long. Anyway, just my opinion, not a doctor, pharmacist or scientist. Just a guy whose been around the bodybuilding scene at a pretty high level for near 30 years and has seen just about everything drug wise.
    Orals aren't as harsh as everyone says when taken at moderate dosages, I totally agree. The problem is that guys run them at absurd doses (200mg anadrol, 100mg dbol, etc) and that definitely is hard on the liver. I know a guy locally who has to take some kind of meds to keep his liver halfway healthy because he ran higher dosed orals for like six months straight lol. He also has permanent kidney damage. I'm sure he never drank enough water to flush his system either. That's the other hand of this stuff.

    But yeah I totally agree about dropping the orals when they're really starting to kick. I've done it, that's why I like lower dose for a longer period. Then you really get the synergy of the combination with your test and whatever else for the rest of the blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarlicChicken View Post
    Orals aren't as harsh as everyone says when taken at moderate dosages, I totally agree. The problem is that guys run them at absurd doses (200mg anadrol, 100mg dbol, etc) and that definitely is hard on the liver. I know a guy locally who has to take some kind of meds to keep his liver halfway healthy because he ran higher dosed orals for like six months straight lol. He also has permanent kidney damage. I'm sure he never drank enough water to flush his system either. That's the other hand of this stuff.

    But yeah I totally agree about dropping the orals when they're really starting to kick. I've done it, that's why I like lower dose for a longer period. Then you really get the synergy of the combination with your test and whatever else for the rest of the blast.
    Exactly, keep the doses reasonable. I never went above 50mgs anadrol or 40 Mgs dbol. I know, I've seen guys on 8 anadrol a day(seriouly) that's 400 Mgs a day! You could see the guys blood pressure was crazy high just by what he looked like. Hard to explain but face all red and strange looking. I once tried upping the anadrol, I handled 75mgs pretty well but on 100 my blood pressure went way up and I started getting nose bleeds several times a day(like 4-5 times every day) That's not a good sign. Lowered back to 50mgs, was fine again, never went above 50 again.

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    I don't do things half-assed, so in my opinion long cycles require more discipline and motivation, especially since gainz slow down at about week 6. This can only be avoided by increasing doses or swapping / adding compounds. So a low doses cycle slowly turns into a high doses blast.

    I am a fan of med lenght 6 to 8 weeks intense cycles. IMO they yield better results in shorter period of time with less sides.
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    My bad, if it comes to orals - orals can either be run throughout a short cycle (as described above) or as kick start / finisher if one preferred longer cycles. But some also run them at 4 week intervals as a part of long cycle 4 week on, 4 week off etc.

    There isn't an easy answer to '50mg of dbol for 3 weeks or 25mg for 6 weeks' as it depends on ones cycle preference. My answer to that question would be neither.


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