Krav Maga vs BJJ

[heckler7]

BOXING, you'll never have better cardio than than the guys at a boxing gym

 

[Vision]

BOXING, you'll never have better cardio than than the guys at a boxing gym

Boxing is legit, and for almost all levels... I can't do boxing or even spar for that matter, I always drive home with a pounding headache like literally my head is throbbing... I got a lot of respect the boxers their absolute animals... also to boot I have the worst hands in the world, I'm like Shrek with gloves on.. I have been around a lot of great trainers but it's something that I just cannot grasp it's not within my limits and that's okay...

 

[Panic]

I'm a BJJ black belt, and I've practiced Krav Maga. BJJ is more practical in my opinion. When you are in the clinch or on the ground you will completely dominate somebody. Krav is only practical if the attacker acts and reacts exactly how you've practiced he would. In my opinion the best arts are what trained fighters use to win fights, BJJ, Boxing, Muay Thai. But if you train in a striking art like boxing and a BJJ guy tackles you then you're completely fucked, its like jumping in the ocean and not knowing how to swim. So maybe train some boxing and bjj and be well rounded.

 

[thewaterboy]

They both are solid. Theres a reason why mcmap and army combatives are based on both (although more heavily krav maga)

 

[Panic]

They both are solid. Theres a reason why mcmap and army combatives are based on both (although more heavily krav maga)

True, I admit I have a bias toward BJJ. But if OP ever plans on competing it would have to be BJJ, no KM comps. And if you decide to go with BJJ, look for no gi.

 

[Sheriv]

krav maga is all based around real life situations

disarming immediate threat

 

[Vision]

True, I admit I have a bias toward BJJ. But if OP ever plans on competing it would have to be BJJ, no KM comps. And if you decide to go with BJJ, look for no gi.

Why would you advise him to take no GI over Gi?

GI is where you learn the very importance of controlling...take away points/competition here, look at real life instances,grabbing lapel (collar of an attackers shirt)...pants,attackers sleeves, and even utilizing his own sleeves/kimono... Why would a supposed black belt even suggest such a thing? No gi would be great if he spend his entire life on a beach or nudest club... He will develop more bad habits Learning no gi first or only....you need to learn how to crawl before you walk.. if you don't know how to control your opponent then your Technique is shit...

 

[Panic]

My black belt is in no gi, I've also practiced gi. I'm also a pro MMA and Muay Thai fighter, I've posted my fights and sherdog record for everyone to see many times before. I'm not sure why you are getting so hostile about this subject but no gi is without a doubt more useful in real life situations. Focusing on chokes and joint locks that work regardless of what the other guy is wearing, who's going to use a collar choke in a street fight? You going to collar choke the guy with his Gap button down collar? Most fighters that don't compete in gi jiu jitsu practice no gi in training camp not by accident but because its far more effective at preparing you for a fight. It doesn't make you depend on what your opponent is wearing and give you awful habits. I'll meet you a 10th planet Burbank and show you my "supposed black belt". What belt have you earned in gi BJJ and whats the lineage? Or are we just discussing opinions?

 

[Vision]

My black belt is in no gi, I've also practiced gi. I'm also a pro MMA and Muay Thai fighter, I've posted my fights and sherdog record for everyone to see many times before. I'm not sure why you are getting so hostile about this subject but no gi is without a doubt more useful in real life situations. Focusing on chokes and joint locks that work regardless of what the other guy is wearing, who's going to use a collar choke in a street fight? You going to collar choke the guy with his Gap button down collar? Most fighters that don't compete in gi jiu jitsu practice no gi in training camp not by accident but because its far more effective at preparing you for a fight. It doesn't make you depend on what your opponent is wearing and give you awful habits. I'll meet you a 10th planet Burbank and show you my "supposed black belt". What belt have you earned in gi BJJ and whats the lineage? Or are we just discussing opinions?

Lol.. Take it easy guy, no one is getting hostile, and if I did wouldn't my ego flare where you would see me tooting on my horn throwing up my resume?

Since you mentioned gi being useless in a street fight over no gi, I'll bite..

Lets look at no Gi, shirtless or rash guards, a common clothing apparel or look that you see in stores, bars, walking down the road, all these people with their shirts off or wearing rash guards? Right? Stop being silly.. Gi jiujitsu is far more technical compared to no gi (and replicates REAL LIFE CLOTHING)...The Gi forces opponents on either side to be a more sufficient/technical grappler.. Traditional Jiujitsu, and the practitioners and professors world wide don't see or recognize no gi rank, although it's taking place it's merely seen as a system at this point.. And anybody that's a big cheese in the IBJJF would smack the crap out of you for even implementing NOGI being more effective in real life instances..

Why camps train no gi? because there's NOGI in the cage (really?)...plus the submissions/controlling are within the legalities of the regulated fights,training for MMA sport is entirely different..

Most NOGI competitors, world champs, or high level practitioners that have a staple name have either received their traditional Gi black belt, or on their way to achieve it..

I'm not discrediting your black belt in no gi or your achievements (kudos to you), but it's just the same as receiving rank in MMA as the rest of the world see it now..I'm not arguing this so don't bother replying back to that statement, because you know what I'm talking about if you do possess the credentials that you claim..

I also like how you dismantled my example on a cross collar choke by adding an addition button and higher collar to the attacker (lets be real), just pretend thugs don't wear polo shirts..of course you can support your notion on that , but what about tee's, hoodies,jeans, jacket etc? You don't need to get a deep collar grip with palms up to complete that choke, but you wouldn't know being strictly no gi..A simple palm up palm down can be effective..But Im not gonna go there with basics, but these simple basics can work for ordinary people in real life situations..I'll tell you what, buttons, high collar or not, I can get a choke and do it effortlessly, a simple button isn't gonna hold me back, because when I see clothing I see opportunities screaming at me especially when the person presents them..

Listen, I too train No gi and competed, but I won't attempt to make a career out of catch-as-catch-can, and slick leg locks..The spectrum is vast and the brutal reality is I seen and witness many monsters that're NOGI competitors get completely wreck in Gi competitions or even rolling in class by guys who are just practitioners who can careless about competition..NOGi is more regulated then you think and causes bad habits along with stalling/hesitate and resisting.. Look at knee reaping for an example,to much regulation! Dont get me started..

Now a high level NO GI specialist like Jeff Glover, or black belts in NOGI like Rashad and some MMA top of the food chain fighters will be different, and would easily have his way with someone, but these aren't ordinary people these are competitors...Ordinary people will benefit from Gi over NOGI..

Let me ask you this, why do you see more "submission only" comps ending faster with gi, over NOGI? more options,defense and offense, which induces more action/response..

Far as my personal credentials go,I don't need to list a whole page of message forums,videos or affiliations, camps or schools like you and who really cares because I'm absolutely no body, so why boast on who you are?.. That's silly.

I will say this, the association is big with a shit ton of names from high level fighters, to your every day practitioners, and evem successors under professors, and many holding titles while continuing to clean house in "super fights", and other's just walking through the ADCC qualifiers year after year! Again, WHO REALLY CARES!

Anyhow, congrats on your achievements.. It's a small world man you'd be shocked,10th planet crossed paths here many times, and vice verse..

Take care, and pull out your old smelly Gi find a partner and get rolling!

 

[Zaphod]

My black belt is in no gi, I've also practiced gi. I'm also a pro MMA and Muay Thai fighter, I've posted my fights and sherdog record for everyone to see many times before. I'm not sure why you are getting so hostile about this subject but no gi is without a doubt more useful in real life situations. Focusing on chokes and joint locks that work regardless of what the other guy is wearing, who's going to use a collar choke in a street fight? You going to collar choke the guy with his Gap button down collar? Most fighters that don't compete in gi jiu jitsu practice no gi in training camp not by accident but because its far more effective at preparing you for a fight. It doesn't make you depend on what your opponent is wearing and give you awful habits. I'll meet you a 10th planet Burbank and show you my "supposed black belt". What belt have you earned in gi BJJ and whats the lineage? Or are we just discussing opinions?

Here's hostile for you: Go ahead, take my friend to the ground and start pummeling him. I won't even set my drink down before caving in your cranium with a size 15 boot. That's the only problem with BJJ. You go to the ground and now you have nowhere to go and the other guy's buddy does a tap dance on your head.

 

[Vision]

Here's hostile for you: Go ahead, take my friend to the ground and start pummeling him. I won't even set my drink down before caving in your cranium with a size 15 boot. That's the only problem with BJJ. You go to the ground and now you have nowhere to go and the other guy's buddy does a tap dance on your head.

You had me at "defending your friends and jumping in"... You're black aren't you?

 

[Belle]

I practice MT, Krav, and JJ.
Krav has been my go-to in numerous situations. I use to bartend, I got jumped by 3 males at 3 AM for my tip money in an empty parking lot. Lets just put it this way, I walked with a scratch or two, and they...well they didn't walk. At all.
Strategic fighting in a ring situation I would go with BJJ if you're looking to chose between the two.
Real life don't fuck with me fighting, Krav. "The only rule, is that there is none" is what is painted on just about every wall of our training facility. It's brutal and ruthless.