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    First cycle critique

    Ok some background. I am 31. Lifted of and on forever but never was on point with diet. Around 2 years ago at 235 decided to make change. Hired a nutritionist. Currently sitting at 183 have a decent 4 pack. Diet is still managed by nutritionist and I follow programs to tee. Ran a cycle of triumph earlier in year. Thinking of jumping to dark side. This is the cycle I have planned any input is appreciated.

    Week 1-12 test e 500mg
    Week 1-12 arimidex .25 eod
    Weeks 13-14 off everything
    Weeks 14-15 350iu hcg ed / 50mg Clomid
    Weeks 16-17 50mg Clomid

    I plan on doing bloods week 8 see where everything is at and adjust adex if needed. Also will have nolva on hand just in case.

    I know everyone has different opinions on when to use hcg but this was what was recommend to me.

    Also debating adding nolva to pct or using nolva instead of Clomid.

    Thanks for any advise

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    Thinking this will be better.

    Week 1-12 test e 500 , adex .25 eod
    Weeks 13-14 adex .25 eod , hcg 3iu ed
    Week 15-16 Clomid 50 nolva 40
    Week 17-18 Clomid 50 nolva 20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gains2NV View Post
    Thinking this will be better.

    Week 1-12 test e 500 , adex .25 eod
    Weeks 13-14 adex .25 eod , hcg 3iu ed
    Week 15-16 Clomid 50 nolva 40
    Week 17-18 Clomid 50 nolva 20
    also add some dbol 40mg ed 1-4, and get the party started right.. grab some hcg and do some research for your balls sake...
    enjoy brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gains2NV View Post
    Thinking this will be better.

    Week 1-12 test e 500 , adex .25 eod
    Weeks 13-14 adex .25 eod , hcg 3iu ed
    Week 15-16 Clomid 50 nolva 40
    Week 17-18 Clomid 50 nolva 20
    looks like you've done your research personally I would run it as follows.

    1-12 test e 500mg EW
    1-14 Adex .25eod
    1-14 HCG 500IU-1000IU EW
    14-18 Clomid 100/50/50/50

    Get Bloods before, During and after

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    My PCT goes much smoother without nolva.

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    I have had conflicting advise on hcg. Few said use during cycle few said just before pct.

    Orginal plan was just nolva but then decided to low dose both. From reading on this forum.

    Wanted to save dbol for next cycle. One thing at a time so I know how body reacts for each.

    And yes I had planned on bloods pre cycle week 7 and about 2 weeks after pct

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    You can leave out the hcg on such low doses. I would strongly recommend swapping aromasin for the adex though. You'll recover on fine on either nolva or clomid, no need to stack both, even at low doses.

    Cycle looks good.
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    Why does everyone prefer aromasin over arimidex. Was just gonna use arimidex cause I got some from *********** for free and was gonna test it.

    Which do you prefer nolva or Clomid. I also see some recommend running aromasin from week 1 all the way through pct.

    I am in no rush to start. I gonna continue to read till I feel 100% comfortable

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    Aromasin is a suicidal inhibitor. Meaning it binds to the estrogen, and essentially "kills" it. Arimidex is a non-suicidal inhibitor. It binds to the estrogen temporarily, so when you stop taking it, there is a "rebound" period where you have heighted estrogen.

    It's also easier to keep your blood levels stable with aromasin, and more difficult to completely nuke your estro with it (which is actually a negative. zero estrogen means no gains and no sex drive)
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    Ok well maybe I'll grab some instead. Now I wondering if I should pct with Clomid/aromasin or nolva/ aromasin I stead of the Clomid and nolva.

    I guess it comes down to everythi g effects people different. Just got to try so ething see how it works and go from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAINier View Post
    Aromasin is a suicidal inhibitor. Meaning it binds to the estrogen, and essentially "kills" it. Arimidex is a non-suicidal inhibitor. It binds to the estrogen temporarily, so when you stop taking it, there is a "rebound" period where you have heighted estrogen.

    It's also easier to keep your blood levels stable with aromasin, and more difficult to completely nuke your estro with it (which is actually a negative. zero estrogen means no gains and no sex drive)
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