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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoRally View Post
    I'm 5'7"

    I know what 167 at "10%" looks like.
    Well, what did you weigh when you started?

    I am 6 foot, but I know that in my 40s, without gear, the only way for me to hit 200 pounds was to get a little pudgy. 180 just seemed like a lot to be 5 inches shorter.

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    That's why I said I'm being a hypocrite as far as saying no gear use. I started at 172lbs, after working my way up from 125 at the end of high school. I walk around at 190 now, however anything above 180-185 off cycle is hard to maintain without fat levels spiking.

    For the OP, go with gear, but as Malf said you need to reevaluate and commit to a goal. The only logical goal that I can see is add size, and cut in the future.

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    Hey guys thanks for posting back but I'm currently eating around 2900-3000 cals 290p/300c/60f

    I hit this goal every single day actually the past 29 days I've logged everything and missed my goal once

    I want to compete in a simple NPC men's physique show I talked to a nation qualified guy here and he suggested doing a hard cut now naturally and then adding gear to build into the show

    My diet is rly in check I eat 10 eggs for breakfast lol (for that 8eggs you said just messin)


    Men's physique has changed in what they want as an athlete because of classic, and a lot of ppl I now personally compete on stage around 150 but yes they're not pros but even those pros were too big and thus making classic physique

    I rly think I'm going to do a hard cut naturally and start the cycle March 28th or April 6th and maybe not even do the show just so when I bump back up my cals I have room for a little fat gain while on cycle

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    Hey guys thanks for the responses. I am doing a mens physique show which has changed since the addition of classic physique. I am currently eating 2900-3000 cals a day 290p/300c/60f, I have no problem eating the calories and hitting the goals, even the last 29 days i have logged all the food and training, hitting my goal every time.

    I have talked to a national qualified friend of mine here and he was suggesting a hard cut now and use the cycle to build into the show. I think thats what im going to do, even tho yes i wouldnt be weighing too much after the cycle but I rather be lean as hell starting the cycle so i have room for when i bump my calories up for that little fat that comes on.

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    finally letting me post. I am competing in mens physique which has changed since the introduction of the classic physique division and as far as my calories and diet goes ive been pretty on point with those, 2900-3000 cals a day 290p/300c/60f ive logged the past 29 days and probably missed these goals three times

    I talk to a physique competitor here that suggested a hard cut now and using the cycle to build muscle into the show. SO already being lean when starting because of the bump up of calories the little fat gain will be okk. but hey maybe i wont even compete, i liked this idea of this cutting and then using the cycle to build nice quality muscle. Im a discplined person so following protocol and getting my mind around it isnt a difficult task for me. I agree with using it to build but honestly i kinda wanna just do the show its a novice amateur, maybe even ill do one in sept-oct instead of june july and lean gain through summer (big deal im not shredded for the beach lmaoo)
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    my diet is pretty on point with 2900-3000cals 290p/300c/60f ive actually logged the past 29 days and hit the goal everyday except maybe 3. I think ill aim for a later show but i like the idea of cutting bodyfat hard now and using this to gain, i rather start with an already lean base. I apperciate all the input from you guys, it is also a mens physique show which can help clear some things up regarding stage weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by damatrix View Post
    mens physique show which can help clear some things up regarding stage weight
    Probably still need to come in around the classic physique weight when stage ready. The best men's physique competitors are already too heavy for classic physique, so I am not sure how that new category is going to work.

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    In a video regarding classic physique Npc was saying they wanted smaller men's physique competitors, but disregarding that what do you think of what I suggested with cutting now and then starting end of the month

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    Disregarding what i would compete in what would think of dieting down to the 7-8% now and then starting the cycle to gain nice lean muscle, ive been a little below maintence for two weeks now and im going to start today with even more calories off.

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    Hard to say without seeing pics. Post 'em up, and we can say "bulk" or "cut."

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    When I go on, I eat 4-500 above maintenance. Granted the size I put on during cycle isn't awe inspiring like some guys, it's definitely noticeable and more then I could put on naturally (without getting fat as fuck). The fat I put on is minimal if any. So not being in a cut i add lbm without adding/losing any fat and mathematically drop body fat%. This can be seen visually being bigger and leaner, but I do dexa testing which shows not much change in fat mass, solid gains in lean body mass...And drop in body fat.

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