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    Hey fellas...any feedback on this stack?

    Hey fellas,

    Recently joined and posted my intro, so this is my 2nd official post. Love the site and everything it has to offer (though I keep getting distracted by the porn...). After doing my research I've found a pretty basic test-based stack I think I will like, but have a couple questions/points to consider. Would love to hear any and all feedback on this one. Suggested substitutes, what I should expect, downright criticism, thumbs up, any thoughts and advice is welcome.

    Weeks 1-10 400mg Test En250 / week
    Weeks 1-10 100mg Mast100 EOD
    Weeks 1-5 75mg Oxy Anadrol ED
    Weeks 5-10 1000iu's HCG every week (500iu 2xweek)
    Weeks 12-16 20mg Nolva / 50mg Clomiphene ED

    Questions / concerns:

    I wanna hear your thoughts about the HCG and starting it 5 weeks in. I'm already on low dose TRT (100mg / week), and have experienced some nut shrankin, so any thoughts on just maintaining low dose of HCG all the time? Also, how about the Arimidex? With this stack, what are your reco's on dosage?

    Thanks fellas. Appreciate you buncha scoundrels!

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    Thanks for following procedure. I read your intro and welcome. A couple of observations and follow up questions;

    Are you planning on continuing TRT after the cycle ends? If so, this would constitute more of a "blast/cruise" as opposed to a "cycle." If you haven't looked into that, check it out. There's a lot of bros here that follow this type of regimen and it does affect PCT protocol.

    Whats up with 400mg in a 250mg/ml concentration? That gives me a headache just trying to figure out how I would draw it out and its also a relatively low dose of test for a bulk. You might want to make life easier and just do 1cc 2X week and round up to 500mg.

    The HCG seems excessive. Generally, you'd do about 5,000 ius a couple weeks before you begin PCT depending on the esters. But as I said above, this changes whether or not you plan on coming off completely or not. If I understand your intro correctly, you've just recently restarted TRT so some intermittent HCG use might be beneficial to get your boys back in the game.

    The Anadrol seems a little aggressive to me, especially if this is your first "cycle." I think you'd be very happy with 30-40mg of Dbol and the sides would be more manageable (but thats just my opinion).

    I actually like your inclusion of Masterone, but you may want to look into the Enanthate version (again this is just my opinion, I just prefer keeping the esters similar but others may very well have good justification for daily injections).

    Sorry for the length, I get chatty when Kratom is flowing through me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roughneck_91 View Post
    Thanks for following procedure. I read your intro and welcome. A couple of observations and follow up questions;

    Are you planning on continuing TRT after the cycle ends? If so, this would constitute more of a "blast/cruise" as opposed to a "cycle." If you haven't looked into that, check it out. There's a lot of bros here that follow this type of regimen and it does affect PCT protocol.

    Whats up with 400mg in a 250mg/ml concentration? That gives me a headache just trying to figure out how I would draw it out and its also a relatively low dose of test for a bulk. You might want to make life easier and just do 1cc 2X week and round up to 500mg.

    The HCG seems excessive. Generally, you'd do about 5,000 ius a couple weeks before you begin PCT depending on the esters. But as I said above, this changes whether or not you plan on coming off completely or not. If I understand your intro correctly, you've just recently restarted TRT so some intermittent HCG use might be beneficial to get your boys back in the game.

    The Anadrol seems a little aggressive to me, especially if this is your first "cycle." I think you'd be very happy with 30-40mg of Dbol and the sides would be more manageable (but thats just my opinion).

    I actually like your inclusion of Masterone, but you may want to look into the Enanthate version (again this is just my opinion, I just prefer keeping the esters similar but others may very well have good justification for daily injections).

    Sorry for the length, I get chatty when Kratom is flowing through me
    Yo! Thanks roughneck, I thoroughly appreciate your help bro (more evidence why ASF is top notch).


    I'd looked a little at B and C, and would probably go that route (and eventually will for sure) if I didn't just kinda ass-over-tea kettle stumble accidentally into the situation I'm in and what I'm thinking. Which is this (which may be totally off): I go off TRT for several months (and couldn't work out hard either during those months, cuz this shoulder was destroyed), and when I finally got back to the doctor I expected blood work to show super low T. To my surprise, I was mid-high 300's--which I know isn't high or anything, but it got me thinking the ol' endocrine system is at least sorta still making some things happen. If so, I was thinking my TRT will be such a low dose (100mg / wk max) that maybe I could do a cycle and treat it as such (instead of B and C), then PCT back to the low TRT and maybe see if the endocrine system will recover (somewhat) again. If it doesn't, and if that's it for me in terms of being able to produce even a modicum of test, then fine. B and C time for sure.


    But, add to that, this: there's a bit of a chance the little lady might want me to help her procreate (she's 29, I'm 40 -- *high five*). Now that's not a major concern (she's still not sure, and I'm fine either way to be honest. There's enough people in the world as far as I'm concerned, and about 95% of the wrong people are havin kids anyway...end of rant lol), but, I guess obviously I'm thinkin about it, so again, I'd kinda found another reason (albeit thin) to go a regular cycle and PCT.


    Curious what you think there.


    Ok, so onto the other stuff.


    1. You're totally right. I don't know why I put 400 instead of 500mg. Hulk no math. Math hurt head.

    2. Re: HCG. Man I'm open to suggestions there. I'm just disappointed with the hobbit-nut effect and am trying to see what I could do. What would you consider a more reasonable usage/dosage (for the "intermittent use" you mentioned)?


    3. I like the idea of the Dbol as well, and was debating between it and Anadrol. I've read a few things about reaching a point of diminishing return with Test/Dbol stack, and also like that Anadrol doesn't aromatize, which is why I had put the Anadrol in, but you're probably right. Dbol is probably better aligned overall with this first cycle, and I'll learn more about how my liver will handle the lower dose of Dbol.


    4. After I posted, I read more about the Masteron-E, and no doubt you're right there. I don't really like the idea of daily injects anyway (but would do it if it was best). I do like what I've read about the Test / Mast stack and I'm looking forward to that combo.



    DUDE. Now I'M sorry for the length. I get chatty when I think about some great gear and getting my strength and performance back! (and...Mary Jane is with me lol) Fuck a buncha 40!


    Thanks again, brother. Anything else you're willing to lend is greatly appreciated.

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    Yo! Thanks roughneck, I thoroughly appreciate your help bro (more evidence why ASF is top notch). I don't know what is going on with the posting. I keep trying to post my reply here, and every time I do I get a notice that says "a moderator must approve your post before it will be viewable"... weird. This is about the 100th time I've tried to post (and I don't know if this will go through either)...

    Anyway, here's what I'd attempted to post:



    I'd looked a little at B and C, and would probably go that route (and eventually will for sure) if I didn't just kinda ass-over-tea kettle stumbled accidentally into the situation I'm in and what I'm thinking. Which is this (which may be totally off): I go off TRT for several months (and couldn't work out hard either during those months, cuz this shoulder was destroyed), and when I finally got back to the doctor I expected blood work to show super low T. To my surprise, I was mid-high 300's--which I know isn't high or anything, but it got me thinking the ol' endocrine system is at least sorta still making some things happen. If so, I was thinking my TRT will be such a low dose (100mg / wk max) that maybe I could do a cycle and treat it as such (instead of B and C), then PCT back to the low TRT and maybe see if the endocrine system will recover (somewhat) again. If it doesn't, and if that's it for me in terms of being able to produce even a modicum of test, then fine. B and C time for sure.


    But, add to that, this: there's a bit of a chance the little lady might want me to help her procreate (she's 29, I'm 40 -- *high five*). Now that's not a major concern (she's still not sure, and I'm fine either way to be honest. There's enough people in the world as far as I'm concerned, and about 95% of the wrong people are havin kids anyway...end of rant lol), but, I guess obviously I'm thinkin about it, so again, I'd kinda found another reason (albeit thin) to try a regular cycle and PCT.


    Curious what you think there.


    Ok, so onto the other stuff.


    1. You're totally right. I don't know why I put 400 instead of 500mg. Hulk no math. Math hurt head.
    2. Re: HCG. Man I'm open to suggestions there. I'm just disappointed with the hobbit-nut effect and am trying to see what I could do. What would you consider a more reasonable usage/dosage (for the "intermittent use" you mentioned)?
    3. I like the idea of the Dbol as well, and was debating between it and Anadrol. I've read a few things about reaching a point of diminishing return with Test/Dbol stack, and also like that Anadrol doesn't aromatize, which is why I had put the Anadrol in, but you're probably right. Dbol is probably better aligned overall with this first cycle, and I'll learn more about how my liver will handle the lower dose of Dbol. What about an AI? What would you suggest on dosage with 35mg of Dbol ED on weeks 1-5 (instead of the anadrol)?
    4. After I posted, I read more about the Masteron-E, and no doubt you're right there. I don't really like the idea of daily injects anyway (but would do it if it was best). I do like what I've read about the Test / Mast stack and I'm looking forward to that combo.


    DUDE. Now I'M sorry for the length. I get chatty when I think about some great gear and getting my strength and performance back! And Mary Jane is with me... haha! Fuck a buncha 40!


    Thanks again, brother. Anything else you're willing to lend is greatly appreciated.

    I'll try to figure out what the hell is up with the posting stuff, too...

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    Also: if I do the Dbol in this cycle instead of the Ana, what's your suggestion on an AI (and dosage)?

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