I usually run 125mg of Deca ew with my cycles. I never go above that, but only because I'm not trying to make any gains with it. Just preventing feeling the friction. Remember though, deca is only a bandaid and you will feel the aftermath when you're done with it if you already have joint issues like rotator cuff or tennis/golf elbow. Though you can't feel the pain very much if at all, you're still possibly further injuring the joint or at the very least, further aggravating it and causing inflammation. Pain in the joints is your body not agreeing with a movement for whatever reason there is.