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    first try

    first ever cycle..thoughts?? oral tren gp 100 tablets (250mcg/tab) and 2 (10ml/vial (250 mg/ml)) of test e

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    Plan your pct and get pre cycle bloodwork before even thinking of sticking yourself for the first time

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRambo View Post
    Plan your pct and get pre cycle bloodwork before even thinking of sticking yourself for the first time
    +1, bloodwork is really important !

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    and also if you gonna pin for test why not pin tren also???

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    oral tren is cheaper tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by myrdycz View Post
    oral tren is cheaper tbh
    It's also liver toxic. Tren isn't going to break anyone's bank... That's what primo is for

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    ok ill go with tren eth pin

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    gonna go low dose for first time..not really sure on pin gauge and all that wife is against it big time..so i waited for long sleeve time of year so results don't shine like the sun...

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    500 mg test e and 400 tren e a week for 8 weeks...diet is clean gonna add more protein and creatine to diet for the 8 weeks..just gonna wait for naps package now..i got pins from gpz 3cc ring with 1.5 pins 23 g..

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    1) don't run tren on your first run.... That's just foolish.... Where's your prami also if you doing this.... You did 0 research
    2) I wouldn't hold my breath on naps
    3) "diet is clean" "gonna add more protein" tells me you need to buy a scale and start counting calories before cycling.... Unless you just want to be a water buffalo with some mass

    *still don't see anything about having ordered or even planned a proper pct or cycle support or an ai
    * still no bloodwork
    *still haven't even done 5 minutes of research into what it takes to cycle

    you are going to ignore all the recommendations so why bother even making this?
    good luck with your future problems.... I'm not longer going to give advice and I hope I don't find a thread about how you develop gyno or erectile dysfunction and are trying to reverse it rather than preventing it

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRambo View Post
    1) don't run tren on your first run.... That's just foolish.... Where's your prami also if you doing this.... You did 0 research
    2) I wouldn't hold my breath on naps
    3) "diet is clean" "gonna add more protein" tells me you need to buy a scale and start counting calories before cycling.... Unless you just want to be a water buffalo with some mass

    *still don't see anything about having ordered or even planned a proper pct or cycle support or an ai
    * still no bloodwork
    *still haven't even done 5 minutes of research into what it takes to cycle

    you are going to ignore all the recommendations so why bother even making this?
    good luck with your future problems.... I'm not longer going to give advice and I hope I don't find a thread about how you develop gyno or erectile dysfunction and are trying to reverse it rather than preventing it
    I ordered clomid and clenbuterol for cycle support..bloodwork is today..exempt alas for pct..I appreciate the recommendations. Like I said early first try so I'm open to all recommendations..also all I hear is good on naps now you say don't hold breath??

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    Clenbuterol for cycle support? What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warriorblaze View Post




    thank you very much..point taken and new order made

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    Quote Originally Posted by myrdycz View Post
    I ordered clomid and clenbuterol for cycle support..bloodwork is today..exempt alas for pct..I appreciate the recommendations. Like I said early first try so I'm open to all recommendations..also all I hear is good on naps now you say don't hold breath??

    I should seriously just give up...
    neither of those are used as a cycle support and only clen would be available during cycle although I wouldn't recommend it as you clearly don't even know what it is....
    i've made clen protocols for a few people; that drug should be respected and feared as it is potent and I would do your first clen run just clen solo with all the necessary support items for that (different items than test) (not mentioning what they are so that you are forced to research and hopefully learn something that way)

    I'll stay tuned to see how your research goes and correct as needed but I'm not going to tell you just exactly what to do until I see you understand some of the basics and did research

    you still have 0 cycle support and 0 pct protocol listed
    il help you tweak it once you realize what's best and all that
    you should never start prior to having those ready in case anything arises... It's essentially the seatbelt and airbags to driving just in case you encounter a reaction or issue

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