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D Bol a drol combo

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Anyone ever try a d Bol/a drol combo? Is it better then running either combo solo at higher doses? I absolutely freaking love d Bol and respond great to it I've used it in a few cycles and never went above 35 mg Ed and have always had amazing results from it. I was thinking of running 25 mg d bol and 50 mg a drol a day in my bulking cycle a few months down the road. Wutcha guys think? I plan on being about 235 lbs roughly 10-12% bodyfat when I start.
 
What's your stats right now? What else are you going to run? How long you going to run those orals?
 
The synergy is terrific and like none other. You really don't need much with this combo. 25mgs dbol/and 25/50mgs drol. Both compounds are similar in many ways,but yet responsible for going down different pathways. You literally don't need much to achieve profound effects.

here's something to read in regards to your inquiry.

By Gavin Kane

For many years, a great debate has raged over which oral is superior for mass gains, and two of them have stood the test of time; dianabol and anadrol. The debate has continued, arguing which of the two is superior, yet no conclusive evidence has proven one better than the other. People respond to each one differently, some swearing by dbol and some swearing by anadrol. Before we declare one the winner, I am going to go over a bit of history and chemical structure on both products.

Anadrol (oxymetholone) was first made available in the 1960’s by Syntex. It is very effective at increasing red blood cell production and was promising for treating severe cases of anemia. With the advent of newer and more advanced drugs such as Erythropoietin, which have less androgenic side effects, Anadrol was discontinued. New studies in AIDS/HIV patients revealed Anadrol was particularly effective at reducing wasting symptoms so it was re-released in the late 1990’s.

Oxymetholone is a derivative of dihydrotestosterone, which in theory means it should not convert to estrogen. Since it does not aromatize but still causes gynecomastia in some users, there are other pathways by which it converts. After looking at studies on AIDS patients, I found that it may convert by actively activating the estrogen receptor, so this is a product that would need an anti-estrogen such as Nolvadex.

Dianabol (methandrostenolone) was first made in 1956 by John Zieglar of Ciba fame. Dianabol has been one of the most popular oral steroids of all time, exploding in popularity in the 1970’s with bodybuilders and football players and expanding into all avenues of athletics during the 1980’s. It somewhat waned during the 1990’s with the steroid control act, but was hot again in the early 2000’s with reproduction in mass quantities by Mexican labs and underground labs.
Methandrostenolone is a derivative of testosterone and hence will convert to estrogen. Gyno will be a concern for sure, in almost all users, whereas only less than 25% have problems with Anadrol. Again water retention will be a problem, usually due to the estrogenic properties.

Both products will have similar androgenic side effects, which include; acne, water retention, oily skin, male pattern baldness, and increased body hair growth. Both drugs are c17 alpha alkylated, therefore liver protection will be necessary, especially when combining the two.

So we come to the premise of this article, Anadrol vs. Dianabol. Why, the great debate over which product to take? They work on different pathways, have similar side effects you will have to combat, and both are liver toxic. So why is there a debate over which is better and which one should you take? Well, as I stated earlier, different people have different responses to each product. Many people, including myself, find high doses of Anadrol to be too much to handle in trade of the results you get. With this product, I have an extreme loss of appetite, massive water retention, and overall aches and pains and headaches.

On the other hand, when I take Dianabol, I get a general sense of well-being, good but not great size gains, and the ability to keep eating. It sounds like I should keep taking Dianabol and drop the Anadrol, right? Wrong. I get massive male pattern baldness from Dianabol, which I do not experience from Anadrol. I have an increase in blood pressure levels at doses that are high enough to match my gains from Anadrol, and I have to shorten my cycles because of the massive dosages I take to get good gains. So in all, I get some side effects from each that I would like to avoid, while still retaining the great benefits that I can only get from each product.

Anadrol is well known for its ability to cause massive size and strength increases, and as we all know, a stronger muscle has to become a bigger muscle with enough calories to feed it. Dianabol gives me large, quality muscle gains without as much water retention as Anadrol. So what is the compromise? Do I take one during one cycle and then the other product during my next cycle?

The answer is no to both. There is no need to short change yourself gains in either department when you can have your cake and eat it too. I am not alone in my assessments of both products. Most guys have similar issues of massive water retention, headaches and loss of appetite with Anadrol, and MPB and fewer gains with Dianabol comparatively. So, the best thing we can do is decrease our dosages of both products to cut down on side-effects and take them at the same time to increase the benefits.

My recommendation is to take both products in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. Dianabol has been found to work much better for quality gains when taken in lower dosages but for longer periods of time. High doses have severe side effects in some users, a loss of all gains with cessation of the product because of the short cycle (4-6 weeks) and most of the aforementioned side-effects.

Your dosages will be cycle history dependent but when I was at the peak of my career, I was taking cycles of 200mg Dianabol for 6 weeks per cycle, or 250-300mg Anadrol per 6 week cycle. In later cycles when I decided to combine the two products together, I was able to drop my Dianabol use to 50mg per day, and my Anadrol use to 100mg per day and because of the synergistic effect of the two products combined, the effect was similar to high doses of each but with none of the sides. There is something very synergistic when taking these two products together with just a simple cycle of testosterone and deca-durabolin.

I would run my Anadrol cycles for 8 weeks at that dose and my Dianabol cycles for 10 weeks at that low dose with no liver toxic effects as proven by my quarterly blood tests. I did not have to take liver protectants, but I recommend them for most users. I no longer had to watch my blood pressure, my water retention was minimal compared to earlier cycles, and I was able to continue eating massive amounts of food because I did not experience appetite loss from a massive dose of Anadrol.

I highly recommend on your next bulking cycle you try the following: A base cycle of test and deca, add in the Anadrol and Dianabol mix, and some Nolvadex. You will be able to control your water retention, liver toxicity, and other side effects by controlling your dosages. Your doses will vary from mine, but just adjust accordingly and run them for longer periods of time. You will be amazed at the simplicity of this cycle and yet the synergy is un-describable. Your gains will be far better than you have ever had when taking each product alone, your side effects will be less than if you were to take either product in higher doses, thanks to the different biochemical pathways. Everyone already knows that test and anadrol, and deca and dbol are very synergistic. Now combine all four in a cycle and watch yourself just blow up.
 
Vision, thats some great info!!! That really sounds like something I may look into doing in the future.
And just to clarify, is it pretty much recommended to run a dosage of Test as a base for any cycle, then add other compounds on top of Test?? Or are there other combinations that don't require running Test as well??
 
Rule of thumb Test should be utilized as a base, however some regions of the world that use AAS and compete in BB'ing have been known to not use test. That baffles me!
Low does being 200mgs os sufficient for just about anyone starting out, or intermediate. 200-500mgs is sufficient.Now depending on the goal and what the objective is,in most cases test will be the base,as the other compounds are the workhorse so to speak. Billy,your on trt if Im not mistaken?
 
Yes I'm on TRT. So I will always be using Test, regardless of anything else I want to add on top of it. I'm assuming for my purposes I will simply be increasing the dose when I do a cycle.
And I had always heard that Test is always a base to a cycle, but wanting to make sure.
 
BillyRay said:
Yes I'm on TRT. So I will always be using Test, regardless of anything else I want to add on top of it. I'm assuming for my purposes I will simply be increasing the dose when I do a cycle.
And I had always heard that Test is always a base to a cycle, but wanting to make sure.
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Yes Test really should always be the base. If your on trt, then join the blast and cruise club.. Ramp for the blast, and back to your norm dose for the cruise.
 
Vision said:
Yes Test really should always be the base. If your on trt, then join the blast and cruise club.. Ramp for the blast, and back to your norm dose for the cruise.
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Coolness, thanks man!!
 
I'm 250 lbs right now 6 ft 3 in. Wouldn't say I'm really cut but all my muscles are pretty defined, visible 6 pack and all that. I was planning on doing the orals at the beginning of a 16 week test/deca cycle running 25mg d bol/50mg a drol Ed for the first 5-6 weeks. Visions, that's a great read I actually came across that a few days ago and that's what really made me wana try out this combo.
 
I've done dbol/drol at 30/50 which was OK but nothing spectacular.. Gonna try 50/100 in a few weeks, see whats up.
 
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Great read!
My next bulking cycle will probably be based off of this!
Thanks guys best of luck to y'all!
 
Planning to utilize dbol and drol combined with test prop on my next cycle.. this is what mine will be looking like: Cycle:

D-Bol @ 50mg/day (weeks 1-6)

Drol @ 50mg/day (weeks1-6)


TestProp @ 100mg/eod (weeks 1-6)
*need 21 ml


Test-E@
750mg/wk (weeks 1-6)
1000 mg/wk (weeks 7-12)
1250 mg/wk (weeks 13-16)
*need 62 ml total

Deca@
400mg/wk (weeks 1-6)
600mg/wk (weeks 7-15)
*need 39 ml

-Support:
Aromasin@
10mg/day (weeks 1-12)
20mg/day (weeks 13-16)
10mg/day (weeks 17-23)


Caber@ 1mg/wk (weeks 8-18)
HCG@ 1000iu/wk (weeks 8-18)

-PCT:
Clomid@ 50/50/50/50/50 (weeks 19-23)
Nolva@ 20/20/20/20/20 (weeks 19-23)
*45days each
*will have some caber left over if anyprogesterone related sides come up during PCT

 
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