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No buddy it wasn’t directed directly at you. Go back through and read where the it all started and the ones the followed.That was probably directed at me, so again....those were numbers from VAERS website itself. Not reposts, etc. At this point, it would pointless to even do screen captures for historical purposes, because someone will yell "photoshopped numbers".
Without going back and looking, I believe the number is up over 17K now...so 2K more deaths since the rollback. They pulled swine flu vax for 3 deaths. Three.
Dudes won’t even stop smoking, drinking or recreational drugs even though it means certain health issues. I am talking about dudes right here on this forum! I saw in a thread recently a guy with 170 over whateverthefuck blood presdure but the talk of steroids is still in the conversation!Again, thank you.
Like you just said, Rhoden was in the hospital 6 months ago with heart issues. I didn't know that until I heard it today on a podcast with Palumbo and Aceto. I don't know why but, Aceto alluded to stress being the main culprit. I've also heard he hasn't been vaccinated but, that's just hearsay much like he was vaccinated. AGAIN beside the point.
Like I've said in this thread, the vaccine is a side note. The entire point being made is people are so fucking quick to point the finger elsewhere instead of REALLY dealing with the weeds in our yard.
We say "yeah, there are possible side effects with AAS, diuretics, insulin gh, eating habits and carrying a bunch of weight. Get your blood work done. Take time off. Be moderate with doses. Eat "clean". " But, in the same breath we're eating var and winstrol like candy because they're "mild". Pumping tons of adex and letro into ourselves because we're scared of gyno or high estrogen when in fact all of those things absolutely FUCK your cholesterol.
Should I run dbol and anadrol together? What about low test and high tren? I'm holding a bit of water should I take a diuretic? I'm scared my prolactin will be high, I'm going to take caber. How much insulin should I take post training? 1 gram of EQ is my sweet spot.
The fucking list goes on and on and on AND I'm just as guilty as the rest of us who ask these questions and make these decisions.
If we put as much time and effort and just plain common fucking sense into the aspect of health and side effect mitigation as we do drugs, training and diet, I highly doubt we would see the body count we're seeing these days.
This isn't about the fucking shot. It's about the God damn elephant in the room that is bodybuilding and what we do and don't do in regards to it's potential risk and life ending consequences.
No buddy it wasn’t directed directly at you. Go back through and read where the it all started and the ones the followed.
propaganda and brainwashing? Oh the irony. Let’s blame the satanic cabal next. Where are the natural bb bodies? You conspiracy nuts rely on mental gymnastics and correlation. I’ve never said anything about the safety of the vaccine.Thats the exact issue w the propaganda you guys spread.
This was not "health" this was the vax and bodybuilders die.
Dallas was potentially the first overdose on AAS to ever be documented. Porter had existing heart issues. John Meadows existing issues. Piana massive substance abuse and AAS. Several others were suicide.
Phil Hernon was the vax and you guys can't admit that even. Shawn had heart issues before but then we were told he was also vaxxed. Yet you think it is IMPOSSIBLE for him to have had the vax the final cause.
You are suffering from Cognitive dissonance. You are willing to admit AAS, suicide and every other legit reason. Yet you are UNABLE and afraid to admit the vax kills people
You are questioning that Phil died of it, when I verified it with his very own family. I am the one who spoke to Dallas's autopsy /forensics tech and I am personally the one that calculated that it was a 55,000 nano/dL level that killed him. And you guys will parrot every word I said. Its on every major website.
But you will deny to the end of the Earth that Phil and maybe Shawn died from the vax.
It's incredible to watch you in action.
Incredible brainwashing. The issue for you guys is someone like me, a Trump supporter and a Patriot uncovered it. That's even more reason for you to hate it and deny it.
Also...anyone ever mention Shawns legal case? No? You know why? Cause you don't know shit about it. Know how you know about it? Because of me. I spoke to Rick Collins his lawyer. Ricks on my forum.
Guys like Heavy Iron who are far less even LOUD then me come on and tell you and you still deny it. Yet you don't have an OUNCE of fact. You are merely regurgitating these propaganda lines.
You cannot admit anyone dies from the VAX. You cant do it. It goes beyond the lies you have believed. It is psychological for you guys at this point. You will believe anything except the vax
The vax is safe and they can never ever ever ever hurt anyone
We know every drug and medicine has sides...except according to you guys the vaccines.
They should study you guys to see wtf psychological issue you are suffering. Seriously.
LMAO even our own govt says VAERs reporting is as low as 10%
The PCR test is false and all of the covid numbers are not remotely close to legitimate
You want numbers from an agency like the CDC, or NIH or Dr. Fraudci who has lied under oath repeatedly. Who paid for gain of function research on the virus aka these assholes paid for these viruses to be designed and created.
And you want numbers from those people? So you can believe them?
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ty sir i needed that laugh.
"LMAO" and "needed a laugh" does not prove your point. Only makes people who are critical thinking question your point as you have not made one.
It is up to you. Prove me wrong, I have been in the past.
Sir what do u want me to say...I have proven to u Phil.
Shawn is a potential.
I have 2 potential examples and some of you guys are acting as if it's impossible.
I'm not gonna help the forum w inside info anymore. It's not deserved openly.
Anyone that doesn't wanna believe so be it.
When I revealed Dallas 55k same thing....
Now it's gospel.
Quite frankly I'm tired of holding hands. I love the crew here and many members but screw this....
I'm.not providing any more info.. this is offensive and quite frankly I have far better things to do then argue on a forum.
Does anyone arguing me even have medical experience? A license? Admin of med cert? I think not. I'm arguing w Novices..
The End.
Don't ask me for help in any regards.
Sir what do u want me to say...I have proven to u Phil.
Shawn is a potential.
I have 2 potential examples and some of you guys are acting as if it's impossible.
I'm not gonna help the forum w inside info anymore. It's not deserved openly.
Anyone that doesn't wanna believe so be it.
When I revealed Dallas 55k same thing....
Now it's gospel.
Quite frankly I'm tired of holding hands. I love the crew here and many members but screw this....
I'm.not providing any more info.. this is offensive and quite frankly I have far better things to do then argue on a forum.
Does anyone arguing me even have medical experience? A license? Admin of med cert? I think not. I'm arguing w Novices..
The End.
Don't ask me for help in any regards.
Same, I have never said the vax killed any bodybuilder. Haha, pretty sure some guys are on Tren.......FWIW, I haven't said any bb'ers died from vax. Yet...
what insider info? You provide second and third hand conspiracy and gossip.Done w providing you brainwashed fools info.
100% done.. don't ask me for anything, anymore.
In the meantime here you go...
In Taiwan more people have died from the vaccine than from Covid.
Yes, the bodybuilding lifestyle/drugs can kill you. To deny adding the vaccine To that combo can make it a lot worse sounds to me like a pro-vaxxer denying reality.
https://twitter.com/simonmaxfield8/status/1451930299055677440?s=21
This goes on to say deaths following the vaccine haven’t been proven that the vaccine was the cause, that it was from underlying conditions. Yet, every person who dies with Covid in their system is considered a Covid death even when they get killed on a motorcycle. Total hypocrisy!Twitter is not reliable just like Facebook and YouTube.
https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-taiwan-covid-vaccine-death/31521527.html
Sounds like you missed the point.Sounds kinda like this thread is actually about the vaccine based on the original opening post.
Bro, it's not normal to get this worked up about such things. I really think you need to take a step back from election fraud, politics, the vaccine, etc. it's consuming you in a very negative way. Just some friendly advice.
Sounds like you missed the point.
This goes on to say deaths following the vaccine haven’t been proven that the vaccine was the cause, that it was from underlying conditions. Yet, every person who dies with Covid in their system is considered a Covid death even when they get killed on a motorcycle. Total hypocrisy!
I take the pro vaccine narrative very personally. I have been living with the after effects with my mother who’s neurological system quickly deteriorated leading to a massive stroke after receiving the vaccine.
You can’t have it both ways. If you want to say underlying conditions led to the vaccine related deaths then they most certainly count in Covid deaths.
I think you are right
I def lost my patience and this topic itself is very politicized and weaponized.
Having worked in the medical field for a very long time, administering meds, including vaccines, it is VERY frustrating for me to debate with people with little or no education or experience, friends or not. I intend to roll back my participation in these topics.
Thank you for the advice, it is much appreciated coming from you
I think you are right
I def lost my patience and this topic itself is very politicized and weaponized.
Having worked in the medical field for a very long time, administering meds, including vaccines, it is VERY frustrating for me to debate with people with little or no education or experience, friends or not. I intend to roll back my participation in these topics.
Thank you for the advice, it is much appreciated coming from you
That's cool but I know way more about him then you sir. In fact I know so much about his dealings back in the day....I'm happy to call him out...and I have...
And you will end.up on the wrong side my friend.
Like someone said in anther thread, "is it me or are more people dieing recently".
I think the answer is no. There are a handful of bodybuilders who pass every year but these past two years in particular, very big names in the industry have passed so, the attention is greater.
Who knows if the vaccine is contributing..... None of us do no matter how much we think we know, we really don't.
But like Dante said in his post, the writing has been on the walls for a while and most of us continued to ignore it, myself included.
Why all of a sudden the last few years it's gotten worse? I think it's just the time line of when things in the sport shifted to bigger and bigger, harder and harder. As everyone knows, just carrying around the size is a huge stress on the heart and you'll get arguments that John and George weren't huge, Shawn came off for most of the year apparently, and so on.
There's a lot going on here and to put it all on one thing, it's just convenient for people's personal and political views.
Tell Dante they haven't added BBers to this chain yet. https://brandnewtube.com/watch/daun...dying-from-the-covid-vax_9C8h9hZ7pEvCmz8.html