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    Looking For Test No Ester/Dbol Info

    Hey Gents - Couple of questions on Test No Ester/Dbol 100mg/ml - if anyone has the answers.. I am finding conflicting info.

    For PWO, what is an average or starting dose? I am seeing 50mg-100mg - just looking to confirm

    How long before workout would you pin it? Similar to other PWO's? roughly 45min - 1hr before?

    How long does it raise your test levels? I am curious as to how long it takes to return to your regular trt or cruise levels after pinning. I've read that test levels only stay elevated a few hours with no ester.

    Any input would be valued and appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevale View Post
    Hey Gents - Couple of questions on Test No Ester/Dbol 100mg/ml - if anyone has the answers.. I am finding conflicting info.

    For PWO, what is an average or starting dose? I am seeing 50mg-100mg - just looking to confirm

    How long before workout would you pin it? Similar to other PWO's? roughly 45min - 1hr before?

    How long does it raise your test levels? I am curious as to how long it takes to return to your regular trt or cruise levels after pinning. I've read that test levels only stay elevated a few hours with no ester.

    Any input would be valued and appreciated.
    50mg 45min-60min, pwo has been used by many . It is short acting and very strong (pure). That by itself is strong , using Dbol pwo along with it is even more potent . It raises test levels for about 2 hours (half life) as far as the test base. It can be oil or water based although more oils have come out lately. Best PWO is test suspension or base, IMO/IME

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxmuscle1 View Post
    50mg 45min-60min, pwo has been used by many . It is short acting and very strong (pure). That by itself is strong , using Dbol pwo along with it is even more potent . It raises test levels for about 2 hours (half life) as far as the test base. It can be oil or water based although more oils have come out lately. Best PWO is test suspension or base, IMO/IME

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    Thanks Max - I'm glad you chimed in - I respect your input. Going to going to see what happens. I am curious how it will compare to Inj SD..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevale View Post
    Thanks Max - I'm glad you chimed in - I respect your input. Going to going to see what happens. I am curious how it will compare to Inj SD..
    More sex drive comes with that shot! My ultimate is 100mg base, 1mg pt141 , 20mg Cialis ! Omg! Talk about Jacked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxmuscle1 View Post
    More sex drive comes with that shot! My ultimate is 100mg base, 1mg pt141 , 20mg Cialis ! Omg! Talk about Jacked!

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    LMAO good to know. . Nothing wrong with a little boost in that department from time to time!

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    Like max said, full cMax will be about 1hr post injection with test base and 2-3hrs with dbol..

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    Start with 50mg Test base. That is a good dose for many. You can bump up to 100mg if need be. I would pin TNE and take any pre-workout orals/injectables about 2 hrs before workout. That ensures all the compounds have time to reach peak.

    The time it takes to clear your system will depend largely on the dose. The half-life of Testosterone (no ester) is about 2 hours. So every 2 hours half of the compound will be eliminated. So if you pin 50mg, 2 hour later you will have about 25mg in your system. Another 2 hours later you will have about 12.5mg and so on. You it will likely take around half the day to fully clear your system. Even longer is you're starting with 100mg.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jozifp103 View Post
    Start with 50mg Test base. That is a good dose for many. You can bump up to 100mg if need be. I would pin TNE and take any pre-workout orals/injectables about 2 hrs before workout. That ensures all the compounds have time to reach peak.

    The time it takes to clear your system will depend largely on the dose. The half-life of Testosterone (no ester) is about 2 hours. So every 2 hours half of the compound will be eliminated. So if you pin 50mg, 2 hour later you will have about 25mg in your system. Another 2 hours later you will have about 12.5mg and so on. You it will likely take around half the day to fully clear your system. Even longer is you're starting with 100mg.

    Thank you for the half life info.. very helpful

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxmuscle1 View Post
    More sex drive comes with that shot! My ultimate is 100mg base, 1mg pt141 , 20mg Cialis ! Omg! Talk about Jacked!

    Max
    2nd this. If you can deal with the 141 nausea it's the shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnewell2004 View Post
    2nd this. If you can deal with the 141 nausea it's the shit.
    I love it ! 500mcg works on me. A bit of flush but almost nothing . Serious rando hard ons for 2 days after ! This nasal PT-141 (has shown to only be 30% effective(absorption) so, that may be a way to use it and get a girl to use if they donít like needles .

    They have new Peptide Drug Technology that can make any amino acid (under 200 aa) bioavailable orally/nasal/buccal/pill !

    Doubt any supplement company will have it but, soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxmuscle1 View Post
    I love it ! 500mcg works on me. A bit of flush but almost nothing . Serious rando hard ons for 2 days after ! This nasal PT-141 (has shown to only be 30% effective(absorption) so, that may be a way to use it and get a girl to use if they donít like needles .

    They have new Peptide Drug Technology that can make any amino acid (under 200 aa) bioavailable orally/nasal/buccal/pill !

    Doubt any supplement company will have it but, soon!

    Max
    That sounds pretty cool. So this means that HGH, Inulin, IGF-1, GHRP, and pretty much all other peptides that we use in the muscle-building lifestyle can be available orally with the same bioavailability as injecting?

    Do you know what the actual bioavailability of these oral peptide preparations are compared to injectable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jozifp103 View Post
    That sounds pretty cool. So this means that HGH, Inulin, IGF-1, GHRP, and pretty much all other peptides that we use in the muscle-building lifestyle can be available orally with the same bioavailability as injecting?

    Do you know what the actual bioavailability of these oral peptide preparations are compared to injectable?
    So this is just some of my research (it may sound odd but : there are two things that are already real and work (totally proven) :
    They have developed carriers (lipids/more) encapsulated liposomal nanoparticle vehicles that -
    1- allow them to take a drug that injected usually lasts hours or a day; last 90 days!! One injection.

    2. They have been able to take a raw api (we will use Halotestin as an example, I am trying to show what is possible and their goal).

    Newer DRUG delivery & tech :
    Long acting lipid depots to increase steroid performance and health. Called:
    Non-lamellar liquid crystal (NLLC)-forming lipids- novel NLLC-forming lipid, mono-O-(5, 9, 13-trimethyl-4-tetradecenyl) glycerol ester (C17MGE), and a model drug with a middle molecule weight, were used to confirm the usefulness of C17MGE as an excipient for depot formulations with sustained release properties. After 21 days absolute bioavailability was calculated to be about 100% ! (Thats real) !
    #2 injectable-sorbitan monooleate (known as Span 80), phosphatidylcholine, and tocopherol acetate(vit e)
    #3 phospholipids - DSPC, DOPG, DOPE, and DOPC (are the abbreviations)
    #4 depo (PG Depot*‬) works on
    Small molecules, proteins, peptides!
    #5 lipospheres or
    nanostructured lipid
    carriers in hydrogel can release a oral steroid over days (test valerate) was used successfully orally ! (Trapped in gel and releases over days making effective) sustained release over 3 days evenly!
    #6 - Lupron Depot (leuprolide acetate) lasts 3 months (gnrh) *maybe a similar semorelin/Ipamorelin/Hex/Tes/ etc would last 3 mo! From a single injection!

    Fiction Example :
    They can take the fluoxymesterone raw power (say you use 30mg daily for 4-5 weeks normally). Well it is liver toxic, your liver and stomach deactivate most of what we swallow (so you might be getting say 8mg of the 30mg and 99% is excreted out within hours . It can do some damage . Well, they can put the powder though a complete mega micronization and attach another new nano compound to it and make 80mcg of the active and it will become a super steroid equaling or even stronger than the 30mg ! It also makes the Normal toxic drug , completely safe .
    #2 they can take a peptide (like semorelin acetate), Normally injected action lasts minutes. Now they can add these new (multiple technologies) and make one injection last inside the body (at whatever dosage you need) last 3months , also make it travel to site specific areas and augment the effects by 5-10x.

    Super soldier programs are already happening ! Lol

    Sorry for the nerdy stuff but, It is something I enjoy. Soon you may just be able to swallow that normally wouldnít work . They also have a pill that goes into your mouth , travels past all time stomach acids, waits until is is ready to be absorbed- then it has bunch of nano fiber needles and injects the drug into your bowel or jejunum (hgh actually) and delivers your growth hormone for however long and at dosage the physican /patient wants. That is just one of thousands of biotech firms are trying and spending private and public (stock holder money on) . I am just gonna put $500 into about 20 firms . So if my parents put $190 into United Health Care in 1991, it was only 19 cents end of 1990. They would be quite wealthy as it has raised over 240,000% since. IDK how the stock dividends and/or payouts would have been. Maybe one of these compounds will be put in every human being body on earth. lol (a vaccine joke)

    Max

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    Quote Originally Posted by jozifp103 View Post
    That sounds pretty cool. So this means that HGH, Inulin, IGF-1, GHRP, and pretty much all other peptides that we use in the muscle-building lifestyle can be available orally with the same bioavailability as injecting?

    Do you know what the actual bioavailability of these oral peptide preparations are compared to injectable?

    This is that new robotic pill delivery system and they were bought or funded by Big Pharma (Gh company) . To go along with above .

    I already saw pt-141 pills , bpc157, and semorelin acetate (peptides)

    Max (just to show you )

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxmuscle1 View Post

    This is that new robotic pill delivery system and they were bought or funded by Big Pharma (Gh company) . To go along with above .

    I already saw pt-141 pills , bpc157, and semorelin acetate (peptides)

    Max (just to show you )
    ​Now that is some cool ass shit! Time to read more into this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jozifp103 View Post
    ​Now that is some cool ass shit! Time to read more into this...
    Hells yeah. Pfizer(or their various equity firms , lol) already aligned with them (bought em basically) . It works 100% so, I already invested .

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