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And your 9/11 pee pee dance has what to do with milley?
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Milley is a Traitor
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And your 9/11 pee pee dance has what to do with milley?
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People resort to violence. Look at the peaceful protestors from BLM, burning, looting, shooting, hooting and hollering?
Or the weekly ANTIFA protests where they show up with weapons and faces covered?
Or the Demturdz who attack old-men Vet's wearing MAGA hats.
Dont be a clown, mankind is violent, no matter what "team" he plays for...
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The only troll from tommy is that American flag in his avatar.
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The fact that we are patriots is why we don’t take treason lightly.
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[h=1]Milley Responds, Claims Usurping Presidential Power To Give Enemy Advance Notice Just Part Of 'Regular Communications'[/h]
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/should-general-milley-be-relieved-duty
As the backlash from Woodward's expose of General Milley's apparently treasonous actions grows, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs has issued a damage control statement (h/t @JoshRogin) (emphasis ours)
As @JackBeTrader so correctly noted:
With 4 star generals who call our enemies and promise not to follow the commander-in-chief's orders, China doesn't even need an illegitimate president compromised by bribes and blackmails.
And finally, you know it's bad when...
It takes a traitor to know a traitor.
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As 19fortyfive.com's Daniel Davis asked (and answered) should General Milley be relieve of duty?
The Washington Post published a bombshell report on Tuesday that claims the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Mark A. Milley, took it upon himself to reach out to our greatest potential rival, China, and offer to give them advance warning of U.S. military action directed against them. Though far from the only violation of Milley’s oath of office revealed in the article, that is enough to warrant the president immediately relieving Milley of duty.
The Post article provided excerpts ahead of the release of the upcoming book “Peril” by Bob Woodard and Robert Costa chronicling the final act of the Trump presidency and the first six months of the Biden Administration. The most explosive revelation from the excerpt was the claim that Milley bypassed the White House and took it on his own to engage with the commanding general of the Chinese military.
According to Woodward and Costa, Milley feared China might believe Trump would order the United States to attack. Instead of voicing concerns to the President, instead recommending actions that might assuage Beijing of such fears, Milley took matters into his own hands.
He called – without the knowledge of the president or Secretary of State – the commanding general of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army. According to Woodward and Costa, Milley told his counterpart,
That would be shortsighted, however, and miss the true danger of allowing generals to take such powers upon themselves.
First, to the point itself, there is no evidence presented that Trump intended, much less took action to engage in a war with China, only that Milley was afraid he might. Thus, the Chairman took action by talking to our chief adversary for something that would never have happened.
Secondly, once a precedent has been set whereby a general or senior ranking official can get away with going rogue in defiance of a president, there is no going back – and would not be limited to one political party. Take a scenario related to the issue of Taiwan, for example.
Within the U.S. military and foreign policy establishment, there are roughly two schools of thought on the possibility that China might make good on its threat to unify the island by force. One is that Washington should actually give security guarantees to Taipei and defend them at all costs if China attacks. The other argues that fighting China over Taiwan is foolish, that the U.S. likely couldn’t win a war near China’s borders, and that in a worst-case scenario, the war could turn nuclear, killing millions of Americans. If Beijing does the unthinkable and does attack, Biden would be faced with a horrible dilemma.
Make good on the implied commitment to defend Taiwan and risk a nuclear war, or allow China to successfully take Taiwan, giving some the impression of American weakness. Whichever choice Biden made, he would be guaranteed to have fierce opponents at the highest levels of the Pentagon to his decision.
Woodward and Costa claim that Milley took action because it was “a good-faith precaution,” to ensure there was, “no accidental war with China or others, and no use of nuclear weapons.”
If Biden chose to go to war with China over Taiwan, what is to prevent Milley – or any of the other high-ranking generals who have the same strongly-held views – from again acting on his “good faith” belief that he has to prevent war with China and actively subverts the president’s decision?
Chillingly, even that might not be the worst outcome.
The idea of a military coup in America has always been considered so improbable that few would ever take the threat seriously. But acts like these Milley has taken move us dangerously close to a place where some officers in the future might consider it. They would, no doubt, be acting in what they believe to be the best interests of the country, regarding the decisions of a civilian president as representing a danger to the nation, and seize control by removing the president from power.
We fool ourselves if we don’t think that could happen in America. If we allow this continued insubordination of our top military leaders against our duly elected civilian leaders – regardless of whether we agree or strongly oppose any given policy – to succeed, we run the risk of paralyzing our government in a moment of crisis or one day suffering a coup. To forestall that possibility, we need to stop this trend dead in its tracks now.
Milley must be relieved of duty. Today.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/should-general-milley-be-relieved-duty
As the backlash from Woodward's expose of General Milley's apparently treasonous actions grows, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs has issued a damage control statement (h/t @JoshRogin) (emphasis ours)
The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs regularly communicates with Chiefs of Defense across the world, including with China and Russia.
These conversations remain vital to improving mutual understanding of U.S. national security interests, reducing tensions, providing clarity and avoiding unintended consequences or conflict.
His calls with the Chinese and others in October and January were in keeping with these duties and responsibilities conveying reassurance in order to maintain strategic stability.
All calls from the Chairman to his counterparts, including those reported, are staffed, coordinated and communicated with the Department of Defense and the interagency.
Also in keeping with his responsibilities as senior military advisor to the President and Secretary of Defense, General Milley frequently conducts meetings with uniformed leaders across the Services to ensure all leaders are aware of current issues.
The meeting regarding nuclear weapons protocols was to remind uniformed leaders in the Pentagon of the long-established and robust procedures in light of media reporting on the subject.
General Milley continues to act and advise within his authority in the lawful tradition of civilian control of the military and his oath to the Constitution.
Quick reminder from 2015...These conversations remain vital to improving mutual understanding of U.S. national security interests, reducing tensions, providing clarity and avoiding unintended consequences or conflict.
His calls with the Chinese and others in October and January were in keeping with these duties and responsibilities conveying reassurance in order to maintain strategic stability.
All calls from the Chairman to his counterparts, including those reported, are staffed, coordinated and communicated with the Department of Defense and the interagency.
Also in keeping with his responsibilities as senior military advisor to the President and Secretary of Defense, General Milley frequently conducts meetings with uniformed leaders across the Services to ensure all leaders are aware of current issues.
The meeting regarding nuclear weapons protocols was to remind uniformed leaders in the Pentagon of the long-established and robust procedures in light of media reporting on the subject.
General Milley continues to act and advise within his authority in the lawful tradition of civilian control of the military and his oath to the Constitution.
As @JackBeTrader so correctly noted:
"if he doesn't deny the conversation as it was reported, then it's an admission."
He didn't deny it... QED.
With 4 star generals who call our enemies and promise not to follow the commander-in-chief's orders, China doesn't even need an illegitimate president compromised by bribes and blackmails.
It takes a traitor to know a traitor.
* * *
As 19fortyfive.com's Daniel Davis asked (and answered) should General Milley be relieve of duty?
The Washington Post published a bombshell report on Tuesday that claims the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Mark A. Milley, took it upon himself to reach out to our greatest potential rival, China, and offer to give them advance warning of U.S. military action directed against them. Though far from the only violation of Milley’s oath of office revealed in the article, that is enough to warrant the president immediately relieving Milley of duty.
The Post article provided excerpts ahead of the release of the upcoming book “Peril” by Bob Woodard and Robert Costa chronicling the final act of the Trump presidency and the first six months of the Biden Administration. The most explosive revelation from the excerpt was the claim that Milley bypassed the White House and took it on his own to engage with the commanding general of the Chinese military.
According to Woodward and Costa, Milley feared China might believe Trump would order the United States to attack. Instead of voicing concerns to the President, instead recommending actions that might assuage Beijing of such fears, Milley took matters into his own hands.
He called – without the knowledge of the president or Secretary of State – the commanding general of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army. According to Woodward and Costa, Milley told his counterpart,
“General Li, you and I have known each other for now five years. If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”
For those who don’t like Trump thought his policy judgment was flawed, Milley could come across as a hero, as one who protected the country from an awful fate.
First, to the point itself, there is no evidence presented that Trump intended, much less took action to engage in a war with China, only that Milley was afraid he might. Thus, the Chairman took action by talking to our chief adversary for something that would never have happened.
Secondly, once a precedent has been set whereby a general or senior ranking official can get away with going rogue in defiance of a president, there is no going back – and would not be limited to one political party. Take a scenario related to the issue of Taiwan, for example.
Within the U.S. military and foreign policy establishment, there are roughly two schools of thought on the possibility that China might make good on its threat to unify the island by force. One is that Washington should actually give security guarantees to Taipei and defend them at all costs if China attacks. The other argues that fighting China over Taiwan is foolish, that the U.S. likely couldn’t win a war near China’s borders, and that in a worst-case scenario, the war could turn nuclear, killing millions of Americans. If Beijing does the unthinkable and does attack, Biden would be faced with a horrible dilemma.
Make good on the implied commitment to defend Taiwan and risk a nuclear war, or allow China to successfully take Taiwan, giving some the impression of American weakness. Whichever choice Biden made, he would be guaranteed to have fierce opponents at the highest levels of the Pentagon to his decision.
Woodward and Costa claim that Milley took action because it was “a good-faith precaution,” to ensure there was, “no accidental war with China or others, and no use of nuclear weapons.”
If Biden chose to go to war with China over Taiwan, what is to prevent Milley – or any of the other high-ranking generals who have the same strongly-held views – from again acting on his “good faith” belief that he has to prevent war with China and actively subverts the president’s decision?
Chillingly, even that might not be the worst outcome.
The idea of a military coup in America has always been considered so improbable that few would ever take the threat seriously. But acts like these Milley has taken move us dangerously close to a place where some officers in the future might consider it. They would, no doubt, be acting in what they believe to be the best interests of the country, regarding the decisions of a civilian president as representing a danger to the nation, and seize control by removing the president from power.
We fool ourselves if we don’t think that could happen in America. If we allow this continued insubordination of our top military leaders against our duly elected civilian leaders – regardless of whether we agree or strongly oppose any given policy – to succeed, we run the risk of paralyzing our government in a moment of crisis or one day suffering a coup. To forestall that possibility, we need to stop this trend dead in its tracks now.
Milley must be relieved of duty. Today.
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Yet ANOTHER call for violence/death from a Trump supporter... so sad.
Anywho...
What about the rest of your guys?
They should get the death sentce too?
Milley added that several top Trump appointees were aware of his calls, including then-chief of staff Mark Meadows, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Defense Secretary Mark Esper, and, in January, acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/28/us/politics/milley-trump-china-pelosi.html
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Even more sad is the actual violence and deaths caused by libturdz, with border fiasco (cartels, human trafficking, sexual assault), Troop deaths, forced Vax that have killed some people, etc.
But wow, Wes spoke about a traitor being executed, how dare he.
But wow, Wes spoke about a traitor being executed, how dare he.
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As usual... U can't stay on topic.
That's all u guys ever say... The Floyd riots..the Floyd riots.
Riots??
Those were peaceful people and there was nothing but love in the air.
Everybody knows that.
#blm
That's all u guys ever say... The Floyd riots..the Floyd riots.
Riots??
Those were peaceful people and there was nothing but love in the air.
Everybody knows that.
#blm
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How come the transcript from the phone call hasn't been released? These calls are all recorded.
If there was nothing wrong with the call, everything above board, just release the transcripts.......surely there is nothing to hide.
If there was nothing wrong with the call, everything above board, just release the transcripts.......surely there is nothing to hide.
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Trump pulled his call to show this was all BS. He had nothing to hide. This admin? Lol no one is going to release shit!
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So Miley was stupid enough to tell all of Trump's minions that he was doing it.. All the while KNOWING it was recorded.. And he still told China stuff he didn't disclose to the American public?
Right?
Right?
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Anyone watch the hearings? He’s definitely on someone’s side but definitely not the USA or it’s military. I have never seen top military officers avoid answering questions or failing to actually accept responsibilty like this before.
A couple of years ago when two collision incidents in the Pacific happened involving US Navy warships and people died, the Admiral for the entire 7th Fleet stepped down. He had no direct involvement whatsoever but took overall responsibility. This is what “The Buck Stops Here” is supposed to mean.
And this was sad because Admiral Rowden is a stellar Naval officer and the fleet suffered at the loss of his leadership. He was only an Ensign on my ship in 1987 and at our reunion in 2016 he was still the same, honest professional that he was as a young man. Just with a lot of stars on his uniform.
True leadership is as rare as the Sasquatch these days.
A couple of years ago when two collision incidents in the Pacific happened involving US Navy warships and people died, the Admiral for the entire 7th Fleet stepped down. He had no direct involvement whatsoever but took overall responsibility. This is what “The Buck Stops Here” is supposed to mean.
And this was sad because Admiral Rowden is a stellar Naval officer and the fleet suffered at the loss of his leadership. He was only an Ensign on my ship in 1987 and at our reunion in 2016 he was still the same, honest professional that he was as a young man. Just with a lot of stars on his uniform.
True leadership is as rare as the Sasquatch these days.
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Correct.
Nobody said traitors are smart people, per say. And Miley could compromised, hence the call in the first place.
Again, Miley can simply publicly ask for the transcripts to be released. How come he won't. Can clear this all up immediately. If I were him and had nothing to hide, I would demand the transcripts to be released. No matter how hard you try to twist this, the logic behind my statement is sound.
Since Miley won't demand the release of the transcripts, it is not unreasonable for someone to ask: "Why not"?
Nobody said traitors are smart people, per say. And Miley could compromised, hence the call in the first place.
Again, Miley can simply publicly ask for the transcripts to be released. How come he won't. Can clear this all up immediately. If I were him and had nothing to hide, I would demand the transcripts to be released. No matter how hard you try to twist this, the logic behind my statement is sound.
Since Miley won't demand the release of the transcripts, it is not unreasonable for someone to ask: "Why not"?
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just to be clear, I see both sides of this issue ruled by misinformation. I think Miley made a very important move by calming down our biggest threat, they are hearing rumors that Trump is upset that he lost the election and in his final days will nuke china, he calmed them down and said Trump isnt going to nuke anyone and he would warn them if he did.
Think about it for a moment, your biggest threat with the most advanced weapons may pre-emptive strike because media is so deranged and feeding everyone misinformation.
this is a nothing burger
Think about it for a moment, your biggest threat with the most advanced weapons may pre-emptive strike because media is so deranged and feeding everyone misinformation.
this is a nothing burger