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    In case you guys missed it. No more pesky "ethics" review for fetal research:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01035-6

    NIH reverses Trump-era restrictions on fetal-tissue research

    The US National Institutes of Health will remove limits on government scientists and cancel a "controversial" grant-reviewing ethics panel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milford King View Post
    Aborting a fetus is murdering a human life.


    if abortion is legal then why is murder illegal?
    Why is capital punishment legal in some states and are you for or against it . I personally support it but was just wondering where everyone else stands . What lives are okay to end ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank zazz View Post
    Why is capital punishment legal in some states and are you for or against it . I personally support it but was just wondering where everyone else stands . What lives are okay to end ?
    The most basic argument is killing criminals guilty of a capitol crime is righteous, killing an innocent baby is unrighteous. One is killing criminals and the other is murder. I purposely use the words killing and murder with that in mind when making a distinction between the two. I would also translate the commandment "thou shall not murder".

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    The most basic argument is killing criminals guilty of a capitol crime is righteous, killing an innocent baby is unrighteous. One is killing criminals and the other is murder. I purposely use the words killing and murder with that in mind when making a distinction between the two. I would also translate the commandment "thou shall not murder".
    I get what you are saying and that sounds pretty much word for word what they told us in the army as far as killing vs murder but at the end of the day are they not the same thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank zazz View Post
    I get what you are saying and that sounds pretty much word for word what they told us in the army as far as killing vs murder but at the end of the day are they not the same thing?
    I think most logical people would agree that killing the criminal Hitler is good. Murdering a 1 day old innocent baby is bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank zazz View Post
    I get what you are saying and that sounds pretty much word for word what they told us in the army as far as killing vs murder but at the end of the day are they not the same thing?
    Someone is pointing a gun at your child and you kill him. Is that murder?
    Someone runs out onto the highway in front of you and you run him over. Is that murder?

    I mean, I get where you are coming from. But that's why we have so many laws, manslaughter, murder 1,2,3...etc, etc. Capital punishment is a deterrent. Like spanking a child is a deterrent. If there was NO severe consequences, some people would have no problem committing murder if they knew the worst that was going to happen was life in prison. And lets say you put the murderer in prison for life and then he kills two more inmates, a guard, a prison nurse, etc. Some people CANNOT function in society...any society.
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    Comparing babies to adult criminals, most likely murderers themselves (ironic huh?). Is this really where we’re at as a society??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Multislacking View Post
    Someone is pointing a gun at your child and you kill him. Is that murder?
    Someone runs out onto the highway in front of you and you run him over. Is that murder?

    I mean, I get where you are coming from. But that's why we have so many laws, manslaughter, murder 1,2,3...etc, etc. Capital punishment is a deterrent. Like spanking a child is a deterrent. If there was NO severe consequences, some people would have no problem committing murder if they knew the worst that was going to happen was life in prison. And lets say you put the murderer in prison for life and then he kills two more inmates, a guard, a prison nurse, etc. Some people CANNOT function in society...any society.
    I agree that some people need to be killed/murdered and a lot quicker than it takes to actually happen. I’m not a religious person personally and pro choice or whatever you want to call it . I have never had an abortion and never would and honestly couldn’t tell you at what age I would be okay with killing a baby .
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    Interesting topics and points of views

    I know when Dr. Jack Kavorkian was tried, he was charged for assisting patients in "committing suicide'. These were very ill and sick patients with disease that wanted a comfortable and peaceful death. And these people "consented" to death. He was charged with 2nd degree murder and sentenced to 10-25 years for assisted suicides

    If you kill a woman and she is pregnant, you get charged with 2 bodies. That is a known fact, no one here can dispute

    But if as a female, even if you are 3-4 months along, go and have an abortion and even if the father disagrees, you can legally abort the child. The father doesn't consent. The child obviously doesn't consent.


    So I want everyone here to consider these points in the argument. Not even their own morals. But how can the law on one hand administer heavy punishment and then on the other allow anything to go?

    You see I have an issue with that personally. The fraudulence of the law as usual

    Like Frank said, I don't like the Govt thinking for any of us. Telling us what to do. But in this case, wouldn't the right of life, be afforded to the child? To the baby. The rights to life, liberty, etc. Under the Constitution?

    If you have rights as an unborn in a murder, how do you not have rights as an unborn in an "abortion" which is likewise a murder in all definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GYMnTONIC View Post

    If you kill a woman and she is pregnant, you get charged with 2 bodies.
    Bingo.

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    Yay!!
    U ridiculously foolish Jesus freaks are almost back to square fucking one.
    Federal Judge Halts Enforcement of Texas Abortion Law
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/u...rtion-law.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilsong View Post
    Yay!!
    U ridiculously foolish Jesus freaks are almost back to square fucking one.
    Federal Judge Halts Enforcement of Texas Abortion Law
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/u...rtion-law.html
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    I don't care when I get insulted.. If that ain't obvious by now then I dunno.
    But to sit there and assume ima just take it and now responded is insane.
    U guys babble on and on about democrats.. U insult them and suggest violence.All because their views don't line up with yours.
    Wellllllll.
    Conservative views don't line up with MINE. So that was my reply.
    See how that works?
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    The point IS...
    This cruel woman controlling law might not pass after all.
    And that's a good thing.
    Next they woulda taken away their right to vote.

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    Disgusting fucking animals.
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    I'm not stating an opinion, just an observation. It's pretty clear that the democrats are pushing these vaccination mandates....pretty much telling people what to do with their bodies, but when it comes to an unborn child, it's my body and don't tell me what to do with it.....kinda hypocritical in my opinion.
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