yeah man- I just can't hang anymore w/ tren. Tried everything but hex- Phill is right- test/mast/ provi def. help, but I can't stand the shortness of breath, especially when fucking- fuck that- And ur right, def. gets alot worse w/ age imo. Think I'm done w/it myself- and I'm not sure anything can be taken that can even u out while doing tren- it's just too fricken powerful- Good Luck!