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    Is it normal for bad PIP to be accompanied by hard/tight, hot to the touch, and slightly swollen skin at and around injection site? Had the worst case of it from Mondayís injection and had (still do to some extent) all of the aforementioned symptoms. Bad enough to affect my day to day stuff like walking and squatting down to pick something up. Really just want to know if those symptoms are normal or not.

    Also today I decided to give my thighs and glutes a break and tried the delt. Got the needle about 1/4Ē in and my muscles started visibly twitching and did not stop until I said screw this and withdrew the needle and just ended up sticking my glute anyways. Wondering if thatís a nerve or something...

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    Sounds like you hit a nerve
    Did you get a trigger point knot

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    Is it the same gear you have been using with no pip or always pip with this gear? What are you pinning and how often?

    Over the past 10 years I have had two batches give me crippling pip. One was Olympus that I ended up with an infection. The other was just a bad brew with too much BA.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigtoe View Post
    Is it the same gear you have been using with no pip or always pip with this gear? What are you pinning and how often?

    Over the past 10 years I have had two batches give me crippling pip. One was Olympus that I ended up with an infection. The other was just a bad brew with too much BA.



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    I had some of that shit from Olympus way back. I called it Super PIP 5000
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterMaker View Post
    Is it normal for bad PIP to be accompanied by hard/tight, hot to the touch, and slightly swollen skin at and around injection site? Had the worst case of it from Mondayís injection and had (still do to some extent) all of the aforementioned symptoms. Bad enough to affect my day to day stuff like walking and squatting down to pick something up. Really just want to know if those symptoms are normal or not.

    Also today I decided to give my thighs and glutes a break and tried the delt. Got the needle about 1/4Ē in and my muscles started visibly twitching and did not stop until I said screw this and withdrew the needle and just ended up sticking my glute anyways. Wondering if thatís a nerve or something...
    Bro from my experience you can just have a bad pin; however, if that shit is consistently giving you PIP you need to trash it and get different gear. Good gear doesn't give you much PIP.
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    The delt you probably hit a nerve. Normal

    The red, swollen, and warm isn't, unless you're pinning high mg gear. It's either a reaction to so much solvent or an infection, imo

    What are you pinning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigtoe View Post
    Is it the same gear you have been using with no pip or always pip with this gear? What are you pinning and how often?

    Over the past 10 years I have had two batches give me crippling pip. One was Olympus that I ended up with an infection. The other was just a bad brew with too much BA.



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    Lips hit or miss 1/2 bad pip other half basically canít even tell I pinned

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeatCurtains69 View Post
    Bro from my experience you can just have a bad pin; however, if that shit is consistently giving you PIP you need to trash it and get different gear. Good gear doesn't give you much PIP.
    Before I switched to my UGL vial I was using RX cyp and I still was getting pip just as bad the first two injections. Maybes itís just bad technique and or virgin muscles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zwhit View Post
    The delt you probably hit a nerve. Normal

    The red, swollen, and warm isn't, unless you're pinning high mg gear. It's either a reaction to so much solvent or an infection, imo

    What are you pinning?
    Iím doing 1ml of the 250 cyp. Like Iíve said though I have had one or two injections that were painless. I think todayís actually went smooth. Wonít know for sure until tomorrow but I can usually tell right away if itís gonna hurt like a mofo tomorrow within the first hour or two of pinning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterMaker View Post
    Iím doing 1ml of the 250 cyp. Like Iíve said though I have had one or two injections that were painless. I think todayís actually went smooth. Wonít know for sure until tomorrow but I can usually tell right away if itís gonna hurt like a mofo tomorrow within the first hour or two of pinning.
    You could always try going to a slin and pinning. I go through times where i only use slins and pin daily. I always use a hairdryer to warm the oil a little. Much easier to draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigtoe View Post
    You could always try going to a slin and pinning. I go through times where i only use slins and pin daily. I always use a hairdryer to warm the oil a little. Much easier to draw.

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    An insulin syringe? What gauge needle

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterMaker View Post
    An insulin syringe? What gauge needle
    29g 1/2s works good for me pinning .5ml.
    I feel nothing and pin pectoral and lats this way too. There is a slight little bump from the oil under the skin but is gone in a hour for me. Just make sure you pin sub q and not too shallow between the dermal layers. That stings a little for me if I go to shallow.

    Worth a shot if you don't like it nothing lost but a few dollars for the slins.

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    Also I should mention: this morning while pinning my glute, after the failed delt, and about half way through, I noticed the needle wasnít on tight and was leaking. Instead of trying to twist it tight while in my glute I pulled it out and did the remaining half cc in my quad.

    That was maybe 4 hours ago and my quad is acting up. Feels hot and a bit sore. My glute is A-ok.... so I donít know what the hell im doing wrong but itís usually my quads that get the PIP

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    Try a 27g pin ... twitching and a bit of pain is normal (I always twitch in my bis and chest) ... you are sticking a sharp object and foreign substance that's essentially bypassing the bodies protective processes, hence the need to be sanitary. Some folks cannot do quads, others can. Delts, Lats, VGs, and Glutes are the easiest and less prone to issues. The more you do it, the more you learn what works for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM19 View Post
    Try a 27g pin ... twitching and a bit of pain is normal (I always twitch in my bis and chest) ... you are sticking a sharp object and foreign substance that's essentially bypassing the bodies protective processes, hence the need to be sanitary. Some folks cannot do quads, others can. Delts, Lats, VGs, and Glutes are the easiest and less prone to issues. The more you do it, the more you learn what works for you.
    Ya I think that might not be a bad idea. All I have right now is 23G needles. Can anyone just go up to the Walmart pharmacy and ask for them or should I bring my prescription or just order them?

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