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Tren HELP!

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Hi, I fully recovered till 1 month from my past cycle ( the third ) and planning a new one for the next month or two ( depends when the products will arrive :coffee: ).
I'm thinking about a mix of 500 mg of test E + 300mg/week of one between Tren A or Tren E. I prefer to inject twice a week that's why Tren E seems the best choice but somebody write that there is also a difference in terms of gains and not only esters.
What do you guys recommend? Thanks to who will makes order in my mind
 
Tren is a beast of a hormone man. Tren a hits much faster, but unwanted side effects leave faster with the Ace over Enth. Faster in faster out... The side effects and gains are all the same though. Ace allows you to make a quick escape. A lot of guys struggle very hard with Tren. I was addicted to it for some time. Some doors are better left closed.
 
Have you ran tren before?

No, never

Tren is a beast of a hormone man. Tren a hits much faster, but unwanted side effects leave faster with the Ace over Enth. Faster in faster out... The side effects and gains are all the same though. Ace allows you to make a quick escape. A lot of guys struggle very hard with Tren. I was addicted to it for some time. Some doors are better left closed.

So you suggest to try Tren A on the first time due to the possible side effects?
 
What's your cycle history. Also what is the goal with this run.

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Most people say to run Tren Ace first, because like previous poster said quicker for side effects to go away if you catch them

My first run with Tren was Tren E at 400mg a week, and i was fine; however, i tolerate tren sides very well

if i were you, id go the ace rout
 
No, never



So you suggest to try Tren A on the first time due to the possible side effects?
That's what he means. Once the tren kicks in. U might have terrible night sweats, insomnia. anxiety. Unusual perversions. Tren cough.

So after ur first week of tranny Midget porn and no sleep. If u want this over with. (if u used tren ace. It should leave ur system fast) but the tren e is a slow Ester so u have to wait the extra week or 2 for it to leave your system
That said. It could be a shit time waiting it out if ur not taking well to it. So people suggest tren ace.

It's advised not to run tren early on in your cycle history. And a reminder this is not of human hormones. It's completely un-natural for human use. Thus the sides. As our body doesn't know what the hell we put in it.

Hope i got that all down correct. But that's the general idea. Be well be safe.
Also @Vision would likely recommend adding proviron with it. He has a great write up floating around the board.
~stink, the stinkiest stinker

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What's your cycle history. Also what is the goal with this run.

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1st cycle: test/dbol
2nd cycle: dbol/ deca/ test
3rd cycle: drol/ test
Middle dosage ( around 500mg of test/w and 50 for the orals/d )

Most people say to run Tren Ace first, because like previous poster said quicker for side effects to go away if you catch them

My first run with Tren was Tren E at 400mg a week, and i was fine; however, i tolerate tren sides very well

if i were you, id go the ace rout

Ok thank you

That's what he means. Once the tren kicks in. U might have terrible night sweats, insomnia. anxiety. Unusual perversions. Tren cough.

So after ur first week of tranny Midget porn and no sleep. If u want this over with. (if u used tren ace. It should leave ur system fast) but the tren e is a slow Ester so u have to wait the extra week or 2 for it to leave your system
That said. It could be a shit time waiting it out if ur not taking well to it. So people suggest tren ace.

It's advised not to run tren early on in your cycle history. And a reminder this is not of human hormones. It's completely un-natural for human use. Thus the sides. As our body doesn't know what the hell we put in it.

Hope i got that all down correct. But that's the general idea. Be well be safe.
Also @Vision would likely recommend adding proviron with it. He has a great write up floating around the board.
~stink, the stinkiest stinker

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Just another question: if I use the Tren E version does the dosages are the same of the A?
 
1st cycle: test/dbol
2nd cycle: dbol/ deca/ test
3rd cycle: drol/ test
Middle dosage ( around 500mg of test/w and 50 for the orals/d )



Ok thank you



Just another question: if I use the Tren E version does the dosages are the same of the A?
I think you wanna generally stick to around 300 to 400 mg for your first tren run. Regardless of the Ester. And if the sides are tolerable. Kick it up by 50mg each week to find your sweet spot. But you don't wanna run high dose. Your first time.
Try to stay around 400 for the first run. And next time experiment slightly higher. Probly some. Good logs here to look into as well.

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No, never



So you suggest to try Tren A on the first time due to the possible side effects?

Thats the way most people view it. Me personally I never had any sides other than insomnia, which played a huge factor in me getting addicted to it. I don’t recommend people run tren anymore. It’s more than most can comfortably handle. It’s also impossible to maintain that Tren look once you come off unless you run primo.
 
My suggestion is to go in Mega Prepared.

Run cabaser @.5mgs e3d the whole time
Stay on an AI the whole time, even something like Exem at 12.5mgs EOD or E3d should be fine

Buy either Pura D Or shampoo or another DHT shampoo like Nizoral 2% and use that daily. Scrub the scalp with the shampoo, let it sit for 5-10 minutes in the scalp and then rinse. Do this daily.

Jump on electrolytes daily

Have some type of sleeping method ready, even Benadryl at 50-100mgs every night may help

Sleep on a beach towel, above your blankets with a fan pointed directly at you and keep a very very light sheet near or on you.

I would run GW-501516 as this greatly seems to improve breathing while on. Also Bronkaid aka ephedrine in very low dosages 12.5-25mgs 1-3x a day can also help but don't take it too late or it will keep u awake

Use some 5-HTP daily at 2-400mgs and if you can get sustained release even better. Tren messes with brain chems big time.

And yeah I prefer Tren A over E, for the fast escape "if" the sides hit, but rather then wait, I say go in full force fighting against what is very often inevitable.

Tren also can cause massive depression, paranoia and anxiety, on cycle, or after cycle and it can last for months. FYI.
 
For first time on tren, I recommend going a lot lower. 50mg 3x week to start. Tren sides usually show up after 2-3 wks on. If it is bearable, then bump up to 50mg EOD.

Having said that, I haven't been over 100mg total per week in a LONG time. But I'm a puss when it comes to sides. I like to sleep more than 4hrs a night.
 
Thank you for all your exhaustive answers. How much proviron should I run each day with tren?
 
Thank you for all your exhaustive answers. How much proviron should I run each day with tren?


Be careful with the Provi in the mix. Provi is exceptional at binding shbg, but doing so sends a lot of free estrogen into circulation (shbg binds E2 also). Excess E2 in the presence of 19-nors is where your prolactin issues will
come from.

Not saying don’t do it. Just saying make sure to take this into consideration.
 
Personal opinion.... I also suggest a lower dose at least to start. There is absolutely nothing to rush with tren. 300mgs is more than enough to try for a first time. If I were advising my little brother I wouldn't even go that high. 200 mgs max for at least the first 3 weeks if Tren A. Just to see how you tolerate it. Increase after if you want.
For me, the sides get worse the longer I'm on. I go hypo glycemic more, can't sleep through the night, sweat like a pig...I don't start to, "get used" to the sides as the cycle goes on... except for the one I like the hyper sex drive, that levels off. Good luck.
 
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Be careful with the Provi in the mix. Provi is exceptional at binding shbg, but doing so sends a lot of free estrogen into circulation (shbg binds E2 also). Excess E2 in the presence of 19-nors is where your prolactin issues will
come from.

Not saying don’t do it. Just saying make sure to take this into consideration.

Shbg binds more to androgen hormones in the blood.
In men the release of estrogen into the system because of low shbg is very minimal and not likely and it is more the case for females.
Proviron is extremely mild and very very safe and people really have no need to be concerned.

To the OP..

The advice given by a lot of the members here with starting ace is a very good suggestion and please keep in mind that you do not need much of this drug, it would be wise to use as least as possible just to get an idea of how you respond. In fact there's a lot of veterans that use very low to moderate dosages. In the past I have used excessive dosages and moderate, there was nothing that was any greater or better with higher dosages in fact the side effects were almost unbearable. For short duration it was my go-to compound and I was almost impervious but that caught up to me, and now I'm very sensitive to this drug and if and when I do use it it's very very modest and the returns are still good..

Tren is and will be the aggressor and the main workhorse. if you do take the plunge you don't need to take any other compounds with it besides test, write down a personal log and take notes for yourself with your dosages and how you respond this way you can go back to it in the future.
 
Vision is spot on....

For me, I ran tren 3 times now, loved it the first time, 2nd time it beat me up (ran 500mg weekly) but also ran e and a, and 3rd and final time (this current cycle) I ran tren e at 200mg weekly and hated life. Sleep was terrible, night lake puddles in bed sucks and I didn't feel the benefits/gains of tren outweighed the mental mind fuck it put me through.


I'm also on board with others saying start with tren a and start low dose... First timer, I wouldn't go past 200mg for this entire cycle
 
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The sides of tren are blown up outta proportion there easily manageable. I ran enthate my first time because honestly I prefer to pin just twice a week I started at 400 mg I've gone up 800 on my last tren cycle. You will probably loose some sleep but take Tylenol pm your be good. Night sweats are a reality turn a fan on it helps a little. Definitely more aggressive on tren than any other supplement I've taken but nothing outta control. Now I've seen my best gains ever on tren and I literally watched my body transform faster than any other cycle prior. Imo if your not scared of sides run that shit for 8-12 weeks than take a break and than run it again.
 
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