DHB or NPP ?

[Stanley B]

DHB not talked about a ton. Which is a better choice for muscle building. Or the overall better compound ?

[Sem]

Well, DHB is the Alpha 5 reduced form of boldenone. NPP is a Nortesterone 19 derivative. there are three broad categories of AAS:

- DHT (Dehydrotestone, A-drol, Winny, Primo, Masteron...this is where DHB fits in) These have zero estrogenic effect as they can not be converted by Aromatase. Clean keepable muscle building and (Exception: A-drol bonds to estrogen receptors for some odd reason)

- Nortestosterone (Deca, NPP, Tren) mild conversion to estrogen or as Tren zero, but Progestenic, Deca/NPP can cause mild bloating and lubes joints. Tren burns fat and can increase apatite as well as nutrient partitioning

- Testosterone derivatives (Testosterone itself, D-bol) can convert to estrogen fairly easy but the gold standard and most used of AAS

So, I myself never take any AAS without some testosterone as, the body converts it into a whole cascade of metabolites needed. Deca/NPP are more anabolic than testosterone but should never be run solo. Any form of DHT, if you watch your sodium, will yield clean gains and preserve muscle on a calorie restricted diet.

To your question, IMHO, I'd never run anything without at least a low dose of test. Deca/NPP are a versatile pair, good for cutting or bulking support (remember lubed joints are handy for pushing heavier weights). DHTs (DHB) compliment any cycle variation too but are most often used for cutting/muscle fiber maintenance.

Both compound are amazing but shear muscle gain...NPP

If you want clean mass and looking ripped, dry muscles - Test/DHB
If you want more mass and don't mind a little extra water - Test/NPP

To tweak that add in both DHB and NPP to your test. If its you first 2-3 cycles consider test only and find your sweet spot there. Do some research to ensure your health, PCT and such as any AAS will crash your natty test.

[Obscured78]

Ran both. Dhb at top of my list.

[Wardamn]

NPP for me, no question.

[Wardamn]

NPP for me, no question

[Stanley B]

Well, DHB is the Alpha 5 reduced form of boldenone. NPP is a Nortesterone 19 derivative. there are three broad categories of AAS:

- DHT (Dehydrotestone, A-drol, Winny, Primo, Masteron...this is where DHB fits in) These have zero estrogenic effect as they can not be converted by Aromatase. Clean keepable muscle building and (Exception: A-drol bonds to estrogen receptors for some odd reason)

- Nortestosterone (Deca, NPP, Tren) mild conversion to estrogen or as Tren zero, but Progestenic, Deca/NPP can cause mild bloating and lubes joints. Tren burns fat and can increase apatite as well as nutrient partitioning

- Testosterone derivatives (Testosterone itself, D-bol) can convert to estrogen fairly easy but the gold standard and most used of AAS

So, I myself never take any AAS without some testosterone as, the body converts it into a whole cascade of metabolites needed. Deca/NPP are more anabolic than testosterone but should never be run solo. Any form of DHT, if you watch your sodium, will yield clean gains and preserve muscle on a calorie restricted diet.

To your question, IMHO, I'd never run anything without at least a low dose of test. Deca/NPP are a versatile pair, good for cutting or bulking support (remember lubed joints are handy for pushing heavier weights). DHTs (DHB) compliment any cycle variation too but are most often used for cutting/muscle fiber maintenance.

Both compound are amazing but shear muscle gain...NPP

If you want clean mass and looking ripped, dry muscles - Test/DHB
If you want more mass and don't mind a little extra water - Test/NPP

To tweak that add in both DHB and NPP to your test. If its you first 2-3 cycles consider test only and find your sweet spot there. Do some research to ensure your health, PCT and such as any AAS will crash your natty test.

Thank you for the great response.

[MustardTiger]

these two compliment eachother really well actually and are two great choices as far as safety, the pip from DHB can be really annoying. NPP is going to put on way more muscle by itself if you have to choose between one or the other. I just got off about 6 months of DHB with Deca and put on about 20lbs of solid lean tissue as someone that was already pretty advanced.

[chicagosterone]

Why not run both?

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[CAhardcore]

DBH for me, but from past experiences I like dry compounds that don’t aromatize

[A.font401]

Why not run both?

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Was just going to say this. Dhb 300mg and npp 400mg with some test and call it a day.

[XXL]

Was just going to say this. Dhb 300mg and npp 400mg with some test and call it a day.

Yup. Run both with test. Easy choice.

[christiantt]

Loving this thread so far, great info.
Have been researching DHB for my next run.

[hot rod]

Was just going to say this. Dhb 300mg and npp 400mg with some test and call it a day.

how about 300dhb, 200 deca, 200 npp(or 250 for easier dosing)? And of course @ least 500 test imo.
then u get the best of both esters- npp will jump right on u, and deca will creep in nicely and help ur joints- just an idea- but my man A-font is ALWAYS right! Whatever u decide- do both- should be a great mix- and adding a little proviron always helps ME. Good Luck dude!