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    About to start first cycle. Need suggestions on supplements.

    I am new to this world and am about to start my first oral cycle with winstrol and turanabol. I have done some research online but have yet to reach out and am looking for suggestions on what supplements to take with this cycle for liver support and to help from fucking my self up. I understand this is a potent mix to take together orally thank you for your help.

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    How much test? Or just orals?


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    Oral only cycle? Probably not going to find too many fans. Tudca or nac at 1g ED for liver support while on orals. What have you got for pct?

    I'll also add that it is better to try *one* thing at a time to see how your body responds to it. If you'll post up some stats (age, etc), you'll get better responses.

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    What's the complete cycle and what are you trying to accomplish? Some stats would be helpful

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    Probably not a good idea to run two orals on your very first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JolleyRancher55 View Post
    I am new to this world and am about to start my first oral cycle with winstrol and turanabol. I have done some research online but have yet to reach out and am looking for suggestions on what supplements to take with this cycle for liver support and to help from fucking my self up. I understand this is a potent mix to take together orally thank you for your help.
    IMO an oral only cycle is a bad idea. And winstrol can be a really bad idea wrecking your joints. And your liver. Despite liver guard pills.

    Hold off until you can get a hold of some test e at 500 mg a week.

    Your first cycle is usually your best. Do it properly.

    Don't base your cycle on what you can only get a hold of...or afford. Or fear of pinning.

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    agree with others, wait until you are ready to pin ... you're going to be disappointed in orals only. Look into injectable glutathione as well. Having had liver issues in the past, this is the only thing that keeps my liver in range now.

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    My first cycle was oral only. Personally I felt fine. But honestly don't do it, its not really worth it. But you don't have any test here tho anyway

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    Better Cycle..

    1-8 TBol - 50mg/day
    1-8 Rad-140 - 30mg/day (will give you the hardness and strength of winny, but won't hurt your joints, and will be much less harsh on your liver and lipids)

    As for supps, you don't have to drop $500 on those. Pick up some NAC and Red Yeast Rice off of Amazon, and run each at 1200mg/day through the cycle, and in PCT.

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    Yeah man- ur not gonna find very many people that agree w/ your choice here. my first cycle was over 35 yrs ago and was test/dianabol/anavar. that was the protocol back then and we never heard of any kind of PCT. Things have changed dramatically over the years, and now the recommendation for a first cycle is 500mg test e or c a week, split into 2 injections for 12-16 weeks. And if u are afraid of needles/injecting, this may not be the life style you are looking for. Personally, imo doing an oral only cycle is a waist, especially on your first cycle. But if ur like a lot of guys, u won't listen anyway- but if i was gonna do an oral only cycle, it would not be either one of these. Probably d-bol and anavar, but testosterone is the base of ALL cycles. the basic idea is to do test only and see how u react to it. then do ur PCT, then next cycle add one more compound and so on. Take my word for it, the test only cycle will be awesome on it's own as long as u eat right and have a good,solid workout plan. But imo, u won't get much from a t-bol,winstrol cycle. Good Luck! (btw- tudca and milk thistle for your liver) And this is just my opinion- and if i were u, i would do A LOT more research before starting ANY cycle.

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    It's a common thing now.. everyone is going to re-invent the wheel..
    The 1st cycle is pretty much Carved in Stone
    If you are unable to do the things that are needed..then walk away
    Half assing it is a terrible idea..

    I hate needles..always have always will
    But I hated being small way worse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JolleyRancher55 View Post
    I am new to this world and am about to start my first oral cycle with winstrol and turanabol. I have done some research online but have yet to reach out and am looking for suggestions on what supplements to take with this cycle for liver support and to help from fucking my self up. I understand this is a potent mix to take together orally thank you for your help.
    What are your goals for your first cycle? Some stats would help too.
    What you have laid out here for a cycle is going to suppress your natural testosterone. That is why itís a common thing to see people saying exogenous testosterone is a base for all cycles.
    The Test only first cycle is preached because you have the opportunity to see how your body reacts to the changes in your hormones. You should get labs pulled before, during, and after your cycle at the very least. That will give you a kind of blueprint to go off of for future cycles. You can order the labs online for privacy.
    All the info you need is right here. Donít be afraid to ask for help, either. Iíd be glad to help as much as I can to keep you from making the mistakes that I did when I started! Your first cycle is the best, do yourself some justice and make sure you get the most out of it.

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