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Does anyone have good tips on how to do HGH with TRT but outside the doc's knowledge? Mainly just thinking about doing this so I can afford it. I would love to do pharma but it sounds expensive.
I am 45 yo. Been on TRT for 9 months. 140 mg a week. It's been great. Lost some inches on the waist. Libido came back. Before that my T was low 300s. It's 1100 with 250 free test 2 days after last pin 1x a week.
I've been researching info on this site to learn more about what I was getting myself into before I started. I've learned a ton.
My primary goal is fat and weight loss. I do cardio 3x a week. Mostly jogging, 3 to 5 miles a shot, so 9 miles minimum and 15 miles max a week. Lots of walking anywhere from 6 miles to 12 miles a week, or hiking. I did a lot of weights in high school thinking of starting up again but I mostly do pushups, pullups, dips twice to three times a week and I mix it up with 5 rounds on a punching bag with weighted gloves.
I was 243 lbs and gained about 8 lbs through TRT, I'm guessing water. But some muscle for sure. TRT has me at about 251. Ideally I'd like to be 220 to 230 like I was 5 years ago. But, if I lost more fat on my midsection that would be great.
I've been thinking of getting GH and IGF levels tested through my TRT doc and getting a pharma script for GH but I'm concerned it will be $1000 a month and for 4 to 8 month run that is $4000 to $8000. I can't afford that.
Alternatively, I may get my own GH and IGF baseline levels tested and then buy some generic GH, and start up 1 to 2 IUs a day either 5 days a work or 7. Either do that for 4 months, 2 off, repeat, or maybe try a 6 month run and then off to see what it does. Ideally i would like to do 2 to 4 months off a year. All speculating since I haven't tried it yet.
If I get a 6 month break between TRT appointments, it might be a good time to try a 4 month run of generic GH. I've read a website that stated GH would raise my T levels, but can't find other websites backing that up. If it does I'll need to carefully time it with the TRT doc.
Is there any advantage to having my levels tested through the TRT doc and then backing down when the pharma prices quoted are just too much? Assuming I would qualify.
I take an AI but don't seem to have alot of E2 troubles. I've tried a 3 week run of 200 mg and a 3 week run of 250 mg immediately following just to see what would happen and I didn't see much.
I have had to donate blood three times and I noticed this last time it really affected my cardio ability. Could have been from additional water weight (maybe 6 lbs) I had temporarily from the 200/250 run I did. Not really sure yet.
I haven't seen a whole lot on TRT and HGH together, other than there is a synergy.
I've also read that I may just gain more weight through GH, whether it be temporary water or permanent I'm not sure, but it would be great to lose fat on my abdomen which seems super stubborn. I've read I may stay the same weight. There is the concern that too much could cause the organs to grow like my intestines and make the abdomen bigger, but I wouldn't expect that at 2 IUs or even 3 max for 4 to 6 months.
The extra sleep sounds great for recovery.
Just curious what others have learned or done here. Thanks. Hopefully this is not a repost and I've followed the rules. If I didn't let me know and I will correct going forward.
I am 45 yo. Been on TRT for 9 months. 140 mg a week. It's been great. Lost some inches on the waist. Libido came back. Before that my T was low 300s. It's 1100 with 250 free test 2 days after last pin 1x a week.
I've been researching info on this site to learn more about what I was getting myself into before I started. I've learned a ton.
My primary goal is fat and weight loss. I do cardio 3x a week. Mostly jogging, 3 to 5 miles a shot, so 9 miles minimum and 15 miles max a week. Lots of walking anywhere from 6 miles to 12 miles a week, or hiking. I did a lot of weights in high school thinking of starting up again but I mostly do pushups, pullups, dips twice to three times a week and I mix it up with 5 rounds on a punching bag with weighted gloves.
I was 243 lbs and gained about 8 lbs through TRT, I'm guessing water. But some muscle for sure. TRT has me at about 251. Ideally I'd like to be 220 to 230 like I was 5 years ago. But, if I lost more fat on my midsection that would be great.
I've been thinking of getting GH and IGF levels tested through my TRT doc and getting a pharma script for GH but I'm concerned it will be $1000 a month and for 4 to 8 month run that is $4000 to $8000. I can't afford that.
Alternatively, I may get my own GH and IGF baseline levels tested and then buy some generic GH, and start up 1 to 2 IUs a day either 5 days a work or 7. Either do that for 4 months, 2 off, repeat, or maybe try a 6 month run and then off to see what it does. Ideally i would like to do 2 to 4 months off a year. All speculating since I haven't tried it yet.
If I get a 6 month break between TRT appointments, it might be a good time to try a 4 month run of generic GH. I've read a website that stated GH would raise my T levels, but can't find other websites backing that up. If it does I'll need to carefully time it with the TRT doc.
Is there any advantage to having my levels tested through the TRT doc and then backing down when the pharma prices quoted are just too much? Assuming I would qualify.
I take an AI but don't seem to have alot of E2 troubles. I've tried a 3 week run of 200 mg and a 3 week run of 250 mg immediately following just to see what would happen and I didn't see much.
I have had to donate blood three times and I noticed this last time it really affected my cardio ability. Could have been from additional water weight (maybe 6 lbs) I had temporarily from the 200/250 run I did. Not really sure yet.
I haven't seen a whole lot on TRT and HGH together, other than there is a synergy.
I've also read that I may just gain more weight through GH, whether it be temporary water or permanent I'm not sure, but it would be great to lose fat on my abdomen which seems super stubborn. I've read I may stay the same weight. There is the concern that too much could cause the organs to grow like my intestines and make the abdomen bigger, but I wouldn't expect that at 2 IUs or even 3 max for 4 to 6 months.
The extra sleep sounds great for recovery.
Just curious what others have learned or done here. Thanks. Hopefully this is not a repost and I've followed the rules. If I didn't let me know and I will correct going forward.
