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    best bulking steroid that doesn't gyno much or at all

    I'm not sure this exists. I need a mass builder other than T. Will take DHT-like compounds regardless, but looking for something that's not going to grow the titties.

    Can't seem to find anything.

    Was going to take a chance on Deca but so many gyno reports.

    What would you recommend?


    (i have nolva, caber, AI's everthing on hand. On TRT currently)

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    Tren can be used a bulker also . It's about diet really not the gear some just adds more water weight

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    is tren better than deca as far as gyno goes?

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    first of all control your estrogen and have tamoxifen on hand if your really worried about gyno and you shouldn't have the problem, its a shame to discount nandralone (deca/npp) for fear of gnyo as its one of the safest and most powerful compounds that exist with the least sides of the 19nor. Second of all don't you dare go on TREN as your first compound, you will get EQUAL or sometimes better results as a beginner or even intermediate to AAS by using any other compound than tren, tren has the most negative sides and most toxic. Finally, you are on the right path looking for DHT, they aren't crazy bulkers or as powerful as the 19nors (tren/nandralone) but they don't aromatize to estrogen therefore I believe that they can not cause gyno, primobolan is the best one but its the most expensive, second to that probably masteron and third DHB. Also anavar is a great oral.

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    Tbol- pretty good and versatile for bulking or cutting
    Sdrol (havenít fucked with that due to the reported potential sides, lethargic etc)

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    If you can't handle nandrolones (for whatever reason), I would run as much test as you can handle, plus EQ or Primo (or both), then throw in an oral like anavar or tbol.

    Basically, if you have issues with gyno or hairloss and you don't want to deal with the health risks associate with consuming large amounts of AI, SERMS (or finasteride in the case of hairloss), then you pretty much have to stick with Lean Mass compounds and you'll never have as strong of a bulking cycle as someone who can tolerate wet compounds.

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    I forgot to mention, DHB is a great compound that doesn't cause gyno.

    Test/EQ
    Test/Primo
    Test/DHB

    or for a more "advanced" stack

    Test/EQ/Primo
    Test/DHB/Primo

    Then maybe add Var or Tbol to any of these.

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    Best bulking cycle is:

    Test/Deca/Anadrol

    Make sure you take an AI and get that E2 checked and you wont get gyno


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    Thanks-- right now on hand I have all kinds of serms and ais and caber. Proviron and Anavar arriving any day now.
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    Probably going to order deca, npp (before trying deca) and masteron. Will think a while on which to use out of proviron, anavar, and masteron.

    will look into dhb and and anadrol, and look again into EQ, which I discounted for some reason I don't remember.

    I'm not going to use all these at once, but looking for the right mix, and I have no hair loss concerns, only gyno because I seemed to aromatize ostarine (it was real ostarine)

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    Test/deca/ t-bol or anadrol. Either one of these orals should not cause gyno. Just stay away from d-bol- it's the worst for gyno- And if u happen to get itchy nips for whatever reason, nolvadex will knock it out. Good luck!

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    shit man- is this your first cycle? Sorry bro- just noticed this. I would just up the test to 500 mg/wk for 12-16 wks and see how that goes. Then after u take a break, add deca next time. When u add 1 compound @ a time, this helps u see what ur body likes and doesn't like. When u just throw it all in @ 1 time, u don't know which one is causing what- make sense?

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    High dose primo. Gets expensive though

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    In a sense I'm looking here ahead into my second cycle. I'm currently about to start my first cycle now, which will be ramping up my test slowly from the current 200mg TRT to I dont know how much yet. In this first cycle I will be adding in proviron at some point. Pretty sure I won't be waiting long. I could tell myself I'll take it one at a time but I can tell already I'm going to add the proviron as soon as I reach what I feel is bordering on too much test. I'm expecting that will be less than 500 mg since I had aromatization issues with ostarine before (it was real ostarine too), and at 200mg test c I already feel something in the nips but it passes. I'm sure I'm not totally imagining it, but the extra attention I give is no doubt exaggerating that.

    So here in this thread I'm looking into my first real stacking compound.

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    Is high-dose primo a thing people do? Would that be very different than high-dose masteron? (cheaper)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Planteater View Post
    Is high-dose primo a thing people do? Would that be very different than high-dose masteron? (cheaper)
    I know ur excited bro, but don't get ahead of urself. U really don't need too be thinking high-dosed anything until u get ur feet wet. Just stay calm bro, and up ur test and add provi- if that's what u want to do(don't expect much in the way of perf. enhanc. from provi tho- really isn't what it's for- but keep it simple bro- u've already given urself gyno just upping ur test. Ostarine and test- 2 totally diff. things. Just think pos. Most guys take 500 test w/o issues- And if u do have sore nips, take 20 mgs nolva and watch it go away. One thing @ a time bud! keep it simple.

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