Pinning EOD vs ED

[BlackBear]

My doc says I can try pinning Every day. Right now I’m pinning eod. He says people who have changed pinning to every day don’t go back since they fine they like it better. I guess they fine it more stable levels and lower estradiol levels.

I was wondering if anyone has tried this? I don’t mind trying it, if it is actually is better, but seems like a pain and maybe a little more time consuming.

my last labs were taken a few months ago. Labs were taken on a Friday before my next injection, little higher levels but doc was okay with it. Normally I wait and get labs on a Monday before my next injection and they are usually little lower more in “range“.

Total test: 1260 (300-1080)
Free test: 330 (47-244)
% Free test: 2.7 (1.6-2.9)
Shbg: 21 (11-80)
Estradiol: 25

 

[Multislacking]

I can't tell any difference if the only compound is test cyp or enth.

 

[Jaxz]

I micro dose myself . I'll never go back to eod myself

The human body is a very smart thing if you shock it . It will try hard to correct it self

 

[Jaxz]

I also back load pins for the week . So the pin cost is about the same

 

[HFO3]

My doc says I can try pinning Every day. Right now I’m pinning eod. He says people who have changed pinning to every day don’t go back since they fine they like it better. I guess they fine it more stable levels and lower estradiol levels.

I was wondering if anyone has tried this? I don’t mind trying it, if it is actually is better, but seems like a pain and maybe a little more time consuming.

my last labs were taken a few months ago. Labs were taken on a Friday before my next injection, little higher levels but doc was okay with it. Normally I wait and get labs on a Monday before my next injection and they are usually little lower more in “range“.

Total test: 1260 (300-1080)
Free test: 330 (47-244)
% Free test: 2.7 (1.6-2.9)
Shbg: 21 (11-80)
Estradiol: 25

It depends on what ester I’m using but ED is a pain in the ass, literally. 2x a week is fine for me.

 

[Jaxz]

I believe you get better result or same results with less by pinning Ed .
For me it's just like brushing your teeth in the morning lol. I pin right after my morning shower

 

[BlackBear]

I micro dose myself . I'll never go back to eod myself

The human body is a very smart thing if you shock it . It will try hard to correct it self

Like what do you like about it? Can you feel a difference or is your lab results better? Thanks!

 

[BlackBear]

I believe you get better result or same results with less by pinning Ed .
For me it's just like brushing your teeth in the morning lol. I pin right after my morning shower

okay thanks

 

[BlackBear]

Not sure if this is true or not but I read somewhere that those with lower shbg have better results with going ed then those with higher shbg....

 

[BlackBear]

I also back load pins for the week . So the pin cost is about the same

do you use insulin syringes to inject with? And Im or subQ....

 

[Jaxz]

I use 25 pins I don't use slin pins cause I don't believe there long enough . I believe the pin should be at least 1 inch . That's what I do and that's what works for me not saying the eod is wrong I just prefer Ed

 

[Bigshow300]

I’ve done both and I personally don’t notice a difference. I’m at 3x a week currently. That is my sweet spot

 

[maxmuscle1]

This was a small study of men taking 25mg daily subq with a needle less system; it at least shows what 25mg daily will do: these men were all candidates : low t under 300

They were testing their for their needle-less system. But it kind of shows you over 30 days what it did. The only product I know specifically marketed for sub q is Xyosted 50, 75, and 100 but it is for weekly use so I used this study which was daily. Just for reference.

Max

 

[BlackBear]

That’s interesting thanks

 

[Dirty904]

Pinning ED don’t with a 25g needle don’t you worry about scar tissue?


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[maxmuscle1]

The xyosted test e made for subq is :5ml auto injector 27g 8mm . Just for reference but : it is only once per week. Scar tissue will be a problem until they can make it go through a 32-32G 4mm like the gh pen or needle-less (which they have but no big pharma has bought the tech from the 4 main companies for test. They use for other medicine. They have test nasal gel but it is super short acting :3x a day!

Max

 

[5ft0]

Personally yes, switched to EOD. Picked up a massage gun on Amazon and helped break up the scar tissue so glutes we're ready again.

 

[gashred777]

My doc says I can try pinning Every day. Right now I’m pinning eod. He says people who have changed pinning to every day don’t go back since they fine they like it better. I guess they fine it more stable levels and lower estradiol levels.

I was wondering if anyone has tried this? I don’t mind trying it, if it is actually is better, but seems like a pain and maybe a little more time consuming.

my last labs were taken a few months ago. Labs were taken on a Friday before my next injection, little higher levels but doc was okay with it. Normally I wait and get labs on a Monday before my next injection and they are usually little lower more in “range“.

Total test: 1260 (300-1080)
Free test: 330 (47-244)
% Free test: 2.7 (1.6-2.9)
Shbg: 21 (11-80)
Estradiol: 25

What test dose are you on with these numbers?


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[BlackBear]

What test dose are you on with these numbers?


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.28mg x 3 week 168 mg total
.27iu hcg x3 week 810iu
.25 anastrozole 3 to 4 x week

 

[Hapanelo]

Started trt a few months ago pinning 100mg (.5mL) every 3.5 days. Got my bloods after 8 weeks and made the switch to daily subQ to see if that will help lower estradiol (e2). Haven’t got my bloodwork done yet to check but I will soon. Only bad thing is I sort of ruined my experiment by starting HCG the same time I went to daily subQ and that rocketed my e2 levels. I went from taking 1/4 pill anastrozole every 3.5 days to taking 1/4 pill every day to not have high e2 sides.

Practically speaking, I love daily pinning. I use 28G 1/2 inch slin pins. I alternate bw midsection and just jabbing my glutes.

 

[BlackBear]

Started trt a few months ago pinning 100mg (.5mL) every 3.5 days. Got my bloods after 8 weeks and made the switch to daily subQ to see if that will help lower estradiol (e2). Haven’t got my bloodwork done yet to check but I will soon. Only bad thing is I sort of ruined my experiment by starting HCG the same time I went to daily subQ and that rocketed my e2 levels. I went from taking 1/4 pill anastrozole every 3.5 days to taking 1/4 pill every day to not have high e2 sides.

Practically speaking, I love daily pinning. I use 28G 1/2 inch slin pins. I alternate bw midsection and just jabbing my glutes.

keep me posted on your lab work. Also, what was you e2 on eod?

 

[spyfish]

I also back load pins for the week . So the pin cost is about the same

Wait, you reuse the syringe? Sorry for the noob Q, but is that safe? I plan to use 29G insulin ones and new one every day.

 

[biggd]

Wait, you reuse the syringe? Sorry for the noob Q, but is that safe? I plan to use 29G insulin ones and new one every day.

Never reuse the same pins. I backload and use the 30G insulin pins and works great.


Rock On

 

[big_rich]

My last run was eod and after 12 weeks I was burned out from pinning ed would get old fast..

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[Snookslayer05]

I’d be worried about scar tissue. And doing it for the rest of your life on trt. That’s a lot of shots daily to create a large amount of scar tissue. And the test doesn’t absorb the same in scar tissue. When I hit scar tissue. It hurts. There’s a spot I use to be able to pin all the time. And now if I do it. It’s like the gear takes weeks to absorb. And can feel a knot after pinning. It’s craziest thing. The other day it was down and had been making sure to not hit that spot anymore. And I was in a hurry. And pinned just a little to high to the spot I pinned so much on both sides. And it was like a serious ball that just wouldn’t absorb. Felt like golf all for a week. And hurt to rub to try to break it down. Idk. Every day is a lot of pinning. Better get good at pinning all over your body. Me personally. I don’t have the flexibility to pin my own delts. Have to have my gf do it for me. And too scared to try legs. Because the work I do. And hearing they are more sensitive than anywhere else. Just be careful and mindful of scar tissue. It’s real. I thought I would be good every other day for few years same spot. The only spot I am comfortable pinning. And over time. It’s trickier now than when I first started. And still have atleast 40 years to go

 

[biggd]

I have lots of scar tissue in my glutes from pinning with huge harpoons 18g to 22g back in the day which is the only pins we could get back then. I was not looking forward to pinning 3x week because of my past experiences.

But now that I’m using 30g insulin pins I wouldn’t mind doing it ED if I had to. You usually don’t even feel it go in. I backload all 3 days at once and use a massage gun on the spot I inject for about 1-2 minutes to break up any potential scar tissue and to possibly help adsorption.


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[Clive Mossmoon]

I have lots of scar tissue in my glutes from pinning with huge harpoons 18g to 22g back in the day which is the only pins we could get back then. I was not looking forward to pinning 3x week because of my past experiences.

Speaking of harpoons, did you ever use the redi-jects from Mexico back in the day? Very unlikely to be faked so they were sought after, but that needle was like a toothpick and hurt like a bitch! Ideally one would transfer the juice to something more sane, but desperate times, and all...


To the original poster, I do three times a week with the smallest pin I can for test cypionate/enanthate. I have much better results than from once a week.

Some doctors prescribe every 2 weeks, and this is them being lazy if they administer the injections themselves, or ignorant when they don't know the ester's half-life and they do not consider the fate of the hapless patient bouncing around from 2000 to 200 test levels every fortnight.

 

[biggd]

Speaking of harpoons, did you ever use the redi-jects from Mexico back in the day? Very unlikely to be faked so they were sought after, but that needle was like a toothpick and hurt like a bitch! Ideally one would transfer the juice to something more sane, but desperate times, and all...


To the original poster, I do three times a week with the smallest pin I can for test cypionate/enanthate. I have much better results than from once a week.

Some doctors prescribe every 2 weeks, and this is them being lazy if they administer the injections themselves, or ignorant when they don't know the ester's half-life and they do not consider the fate of the hapless patient bouncing around from 2000 to 200 test levels every fortnight.

Yeah we got those all the time but I did transfer over to another syringe


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