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Long as diet and training is locked in cant see why you can't gain well!
Lean gains will happen and strength
Good luck so far looks good!
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Ps dont for get some cardio in there maybe 4x40mins (not on leg days)on slow pace on the treadmill under 120HR great for the heart and cardiovascular
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I’ve been sitting at roughly 150g carbs 90g fat and 270g protein. Doing 45 min of cardio a day. Referring when I feel weak. (Eating a few slices of pizza, add some rice to a meal, etc.)
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Does anyone have some suggestions about diet? Training? Supplementation? To make this an optimal experience?
Currently doing the “Creeping Death 2” program created by John Medows. So far it seems like a simple progressive over load type program. Then I just added cardio after every work out.
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Keep it up! 

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Originally Posted by
sxboicexb
Does anyone have some suggestions about diet? Training? Supplementation? To make this an optimal experience?
Currently doing the “Creeping Death 2” program created by John Medows. So far it seems like a simple progressive over load type program. Then I just added cardio after every work out.
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If you can afford it, and are serious, this is a good time to think about hiring a coach. I know I regret waiting so many years. Knowledge is power.
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I’ve been really liking the content Vigorous Steve has put out. Would really love to have a coach as knowledgeable as he is. He’s been blowing my mind about different PED’s that affect how our body’s use minerals as well as the myriad of other affects. It’s amazing that he has such a broad understanding of not only the compounds themselves but supplementation for them as well!
I have been wanting to stick with a coach. Some months are better than others on what I can afford. So all I’ve been doing is reading and learning about this lifestyle like a fiend.
Eventually would like to compete. I’ve got a lot of growing to do.
Preferably Classic Physique.
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I go to a gym where PED’s are prevalent in the men and the women. I just don’t trust any of them
A bunch of hustlers. I wish I felt like they gave a shit about me and not the money I would willingly pay them. Literally putting my health and my life in someone else’s hands.
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Originally Posted by
sxboicexb
I’ve been really liking the content Vigorous Steve has put out. Would really love to have a coach as knowledgeable as he is. He’s been blowing my mind about different PED’s that affect how our body’s use minerals as well as the myriad of other affects. It’s amazing that he has such a broad understanding of not only the compounds themselves but supplementation for them as well!
I have been wanting to stick with a coach. Some months are better than others on what I can afford. So all I’ve been doing is reading and learning about this lifestyle like a fiend.
Eventually would like to compete. I’ve got a lot of growing to do.
Preferably Classic Physique.
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Originally Posted by
maikolo33
Ps dont for get some cardio in there maybe 4x40mins (not on leg days)on slow pace on the treadmill under 120HR great for the heart and cardiovascular
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Is there a reason you to keep your heart rate under 120? I've been doing fasted every day for the past few months, but have been doing more jogging. I usually get my HR to about 140 then hold it there for 30 minutes. Is that too much?
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I may be completely wrong but. You’re body uses carbohydrates as energy? When you are resting your body is using fat as energy?
It could also be that it is muscle wasting protective?
Extended times of aerobic exercise eventually switches over from carbohydrates as its preferred source to fats?
Any articles out there that anyone would mind contributing?
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It’s simply easier to maintain a heart rate of 120 for 40 minutes rather than 150?
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sxboicexb
It’s simply easier to maintain a heart rate of 120 for 40 minutes rather than 150?
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sure its easier, but I was just curious if the higher HR for longer would have a greater benefit on heart health?
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Not 100% certain. I would assume that the more cardio you do the healthier your heart though. It definitely depends on your goals what method of cardio you choose to do. Fat loss goals need to be sustainable. Too much stress=high cortisol which yes is catabolic and will burn fat but how long can you maintain that and will you rebound? So I imagine that is the idea behind steady state. Not certain though.
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