I have been donating for yrs and lately I've found no more benefits from it..no drop in pressure or feeling better..you know that sluggish feeling in the morning..used to have to do a hot soak to get moving..not today mention that needle thing..So my Oncologist said stop doing it about 6 months ago..I know sounds off..He knows about my gear use,and said it will finally stabilize..I doubted this..but he was right..I don't recommend it or even truly understand it but recent labs show he was right..Now the White Cell count.. That's a whole other issue..
Anyone one else experience higher blood pressure on a Deca cycle? I donate blood all the time but this is the first time I couldn't because of high blood pressure. I have never tried to donate on a Deca cycle and that is the only thing that is different. So I was just wondering if anyone else experienced a higher blood pressure on it?
Thanks
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Carditone seems to work for most, but there are some that have the opposite reaction to alpha blockers. Like me, Carditone or any prescription alpha blocker like prazosin or terazosin actually raise my blood pressure. Makes for a real miserable time.
Check your BP a few times before and after dosing to see what it's actually doing.
Prescription meds are not expensive at all if you order them from India. Telmisartan, which is one of the most expensive ones, is only $36 for a 90 day supply. Made in the same facility as the ones I get from the pharmacy but 1/3 of the cost. Nebivolol (Bistolic, a beta blocker with vasodilation properties) is cheap too, even though it's expensive here.
If the Carditone doesn't work, feel free to message me if you want some help with finding the right med. There's a handful of different types and certain ones work better than others depending on your exact symptoms. Gym n Tonic is another good source of info relating to meds
I went to the doctor on Tuesday and they took my BP. It was 132/68. Doc said it was perfect. I really thing the lady at the blood donation had no idea what she was doing. That lady also said heart beat was irregular and when the Doc took a listen she said it was completely normal.Currently my BP is high running Tren and test. Doc has me on meds but living this lifestyle is a little difficult to keep in check.
I’m limiting my Tren runs to a max of 4-5 weeks in the front of a cycle to reduce overall long term negative impacts.
Def see your doctor, disclose as much as your comfortable with and go from there
Yeah it's super cheap from India and most are made in the same facilities. Most meds are super cheap with insurance too, between $2-6 monthly, outside of the newer non generic ones.Same here, Carditone for me was just "Meh" and it's actually fairly expensive compared to getting BP meds which are essentially a $5 co pay for me. Even if you have no insurance, BP meds are available cheap from overseas pharmacies.
My BP was 156/86 the other day at the doctors and they think it's unusual that a "healthy guy" at 36 is having BP issues. I explained it was probably due to being on a rather high (600mg+) dose of testosterone, but he said he still wants to give me something and if it goes below 100/60 then to stop taking them. He prescribed me Lisinopril at 10mg/day.
For me 150s/85-90 is common on cycle and on a TRT dose I'm back down to 130/80 so still a tad on the higher end of normal.
Yeah it's super cheap from India and most are made in the same facilities. Most meds are super cheap with insurance too, between $2-6 monthly, outside of the newer non generic ones.
Yeah that's too high man. I personally would keep that quite a bit lower. I shoot for around 126/74ish personally, and just adjust my meds to stay there. Even where you're at it's going to be really hard on the kidneys over the long run because it's spiking pretty high when you're active. What's your resting pulse rate stay at?
I went to the doctor on Tuesday and they took my BP. It was 132/68. Doc said it was perfect. I really thing the lady at the blood donation had no idea what she was doing. That lady also said heart beat was irregular and when the Doc took a listen she said it was completely normal.
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Do you ever get dizzy that low?Yeah that's too high man. I personally would keep that quite a bit lower. I shoot for around 126/74ish personally, and just adjust my meds to stay there.
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But, it can always get stopped so I am apprehensive about her ordering it, especially when it is available here in the US for 4x more but it is still cheaper than these so called Life Extension Formulations they sell. She takes a gram of each in the morning witn vit K2/D3, 81mg aspirin and CoQ10 w ubiquinol. She says she feels quicker and more energetic. iDk, but I am not going to start an argument with a Jersey
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No not at all, I feel great at those levels. I don't get dizzy or any orthostatic hypotension issues unless it drops lower than about 110/60 (either number).Do you ever get dizzy that low?
Also, how do you adjust your meds?
Let's say (hypothetical) that I take 80 mg of telmisartan, and it had me at 130/80, like ArgonCoagulator. Would you take more than 80mg?
Yeah it's super cheap from India and most are made in the same facilities. Most meds are super cheap with insurance too, between $2-6 monthly, outside of the newer non generic ones.
Yeah that's too high man. I personally would keep that quite a bit lower. I shoot for around 126/74ish personally, and just adjust my meds to stay there. Even where you're at it's going to be really hard on the kidneys over the long run because it's spiking pretty high when you're active. What's your resting pulse rate stay at?
Haha!
Almost every pack I've gotten for meds from India has been opened by customs over the last year, but they always come through as long as there's nothing scheduled. Pretty much all regular pharma meds are no problem, as long as there's not too much per box. Supposed to be a 90 day supply maximum. Best deals you can get on a lot of stuff.
Anyone one else experience higher blood pressure on a Deca cycle? I donate blood all the time but this is the first time I couldn't because of high blood pressure. I have never tried to donate on a Deca cycle and that is the only thing that is different. So I was just wondering if anyone else experienced a higher blood pressure on it?
Thanks
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It's part of the game..wait till you try Tren..on am lighter note..all PED's raise BP and the older you get the worse it is..
Just got back from the doctor today. Blood pressure was 133/68. Seems to be all good
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Yes. I bought a wrist monitor and started Carditone. It’s helped but only lowered my BP about 10-15 points. It’s still too high at 150/80 so I bought some script BP meds from overseas. I’m a little worried about my BP at the moment to be honest.
That's not bad. Mine gets crazy high, over 100. I've tried the laying down and taking my BP too, but mine stays pretty stable regardless so when it's high at rest it's always that way. Probably means yours isn't too bad normally. You'll know if it gets too low. Orthostatic hypotension is pretty apparent. You'll stand up and get lightheaded and dizzy...if that happens you're too low. You'll know what I mean if it happens lol. Be careful at first to make sure you don't pass out when you stand upGarlic, btw I realized while I was off on another forum that I forgot to mention my usual heart rate. At the doctors it was I think around 85. Which, like my BP is higher than when I'm chillin at home.
That's not bad. Mine gets crazy high, over 100. I've tried the laying down and taking my BP too, but mine stays pretty stable regardless so when it's high at rest it's always that way. Probably means yours isn't too bad normally. You'll know if it gets too low. Orthostatic hypotension is pretty apparent. You'll stand up and get lightheaded and dizzy...if that happens you're too low. You'll know what I mean if it happens lol. Be careful at first to make sure you don't pass out when you stand up
Dang that's a long time. I think the longest I've waited is about 21 days during busy seasons.India seems to be taking 6 weeks now . . .