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1st Tren Run

mayhem124

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I thought about posting this in open forum but I really wanted the opinion of those that might have ran the compounds in the cycle I'm planning from GC.

I've heard nothing but excellent reports of the ATTIP Test so I'll be running that as my base test. Then wanted to get the Tren A / Mast P Blend 300mg (150mg/150mg)

Seeing it is my 1st run with Tren I was going to start the cycle at ATTIP 500mg/wk, Tren 200mg/wk, Mast 200mg/wk.

If all feels good I'll ramp that up to 600/300/300 after 2 weeks or so.

I will be using this for a cut/show prep (NPC Men's Physique). I have Asin, Adex, Nolva, Caber on hand. I've ran Deca and NPP so I have some experience with 19-Nors.

Thoughts on doses and cycle plan? Thanks in advance.
 
Looks good to me. Im a fan of lower dosed tren and the mast is always a nice addition to any 19nor.

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HPM3TAL said:
Looks good to me. Im a fan of lower dosed tren and the mast is always a nice addition to any 19nor.

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Yeah, I'm not trying to get huge or deal with elevated sides. Minor sides that are manageable, fine. Im competing in Men's Physique so no need to be huge and jacked, just good muscle mass, definition, and uniformity.

Proper nutrition, hard focused training, and lower dose cycles are working wonders for me.

Easier on the rebound too. Blast/Cruise is easier with shorter cycles and lower doses.
 
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mayhem124 said:
Yeah, I'm not trying to get huge or deal with elevated sides. Minor sides that are manageable, fine. Im competing in Men's Physique so no need to be huge and jacked, just good muscle mass, definition, and uniformity.

Proper nutrition, hard focused training, and lower dose cycles are working wonders for me.

Easier on the rebound too. Blast/Cruise is easier with shorter cycles and lower doses.
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Good Luck Mayhem. . I like to keep my test under 300 and run the Tren/Mast a touch higher for cutting. But; that being said . You should do phenomenal. Although I wouldnt raise the test. For a cut: Tren/mast will do the job!! Then it is all you from there. Kick some ass!! Physique is no joke anymore. Record turn outs ; even during Covid ! Sides suck so it is good you have Caber, mast and Provi both make me feel phenomenal. Last 4 weeks ; all shortest Ester possible IMO/IME. Letro is nice for the end.

Max
 
Oh hell yes! I have been waiting on this. Don’t rip off anyone’s head at the gym. You’ll be fine.


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BigBoss1 said:
I wish I could run Tren, even at low doses it fucks with my head!

I turn into a monster overnight
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It kicked in pretty early for me, but I kept reminding my self it wasn't me and its the drug and I dealt with it. You have to learn to walk and look away. It took me couple of weeks and got it under control.
 
maxmuscle1 said:
Good Luck Mayhem. . I like to keep my test under 300 and run the Tren/Mast a touch higher for cutting. But; that being said . You should do phenomenal. Although I wouldnt raise the test. For a cut: Tren/mast will do the job!! Then it is all you from there. Kick some ass!! Physique is no joke anymore. Record turn outs ; even during Covid ! Sides suck so it is good you have Caber, mast and Provi both make me feel phenomenal. Last 4 weeks ; all shortest Ester possible IMO/IME. Letro is nice for the end.

Max
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Do you run the Test low and Tren equal/higher to keep water retention minimal?

How do you feel with that ratio? I've seen some say they like Test 1.5-2x Tren and you feel a lot better. But to each their own. Just curious. For purpose of cutting, I can run the Test lower.
 
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cdubw44 said:
Oh hell yes! I have been waiting on this. Don’t rip off anyone’s head at the gym. You’ll be fine.


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Hell yeah bro, been working towards this for a while now. As long as no one acts like fuckin idiots in my squat rack doing fuckin curls or somethin we'll be alright.

If you read about some dude getting his head bashed into a squat rack, it wasn't me alright.
 
mayhem124 said:
Do you run the Test low and Tren equal/higher to keep water retention minimal?

How do you feel with that ratio? I've seen some say they like Test 1.5-2x Tren and you feel a lot better. But to each their own. Just curious. For purpose of cutting, I can run the Test lower.
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If bulking, test higher for sure make me feel waaay better but, for a cut; I dig deep and raise my Tren/mast EVEN at minimum and higher(1.25-1.5x higher approximately. But at even levels I kick in multiple things...halo/Clen; stuff like that. I don’t want to detract you from your plan. Even will be !! Water/Bloat is definitely a reason for me to keep my test low. But again. You have a good plan. Just make the most of it and kick some butts

Max
 
maxmuscle1 said:
If bulking, test higher for sure make me feel waaay better but, for a cut; I dig deep and raise my Tren/mast EVEN at minimum and higher(1.25-1.5x higher approximately. But at even levels I kick in multiple things...halo/Clen; stuff like that. I don’t want to detract you from your plan. Even will be !! Water/Bloat is definitely a reason for me to keep my test low. But again. You have a good plan. Just make the most of it and kick some butts

Max
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I thought about adding some oral winny for the last 2 weeks before the show just to really get that dry hard look. I will probably drop my Test dose the last few weeks and up the AI a bit as well. Again, just to really get the dry grainy look.

Thoughts on Winny at the end?
 
mayhem124 said:
I thought about adding some oral winny for the last 2 weeks before the show just to really get that dry hard look. I will probably drop my Test dose the last few weeks and up the AI a bit as well. Again, just to really get the dry grainy look.

Thoughts on Winny at the end?
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Yup!! MOs def! ⚡️⚡️! I am a fan of inj but oral as well . 50-100mg daily. Not advice of any kind but it is something I always employ

Max
 
Wiseguy was running a 1:1:1 ratio of Test/Tren/Mast so maybe I'll try the same. Test in this run is really just to keep lvls up. The Tren is the fuckin work horse being 500/500. Mast just makes me feel fuckin great and want to fuck like a race horse so I can only imagine Tren/Mast.
 
mayhem124 said:
Wiseguy was running a 1:1:1 ratio of Test/Tren/Mast so maybe I'll try the same. Test in this run is really just to keep lvls up. The Tren is the fuckin work horse being 500/500. Mast just makes me feel fuckin great and want to fuck like a race horse so I can only imagine Tren/Mast.
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Trust me bro I've been doing gear for 26 years and Ive tried everything. This combo of the cut mix and my first ever Tren run is absolutely incredible. I inject .75 EOD which keeps the blood extremely stable and minimal sides. The two major sides for me were aggression and sleep which I have both under control. No heartburn, night sweats, I did cough pretty bad once. Oh yes and the sex on it is crazy. I highly recommend Cardarine along with the cycle. I had a picture up for a day and removed it just after two weeks the results were great. Remember more is not always good.

Best of luck to you and enjoy the ride.
 
Wiseguy said:
Trust me bro I've been doing gear for 26 years and Ive tried everything. This combo of the cut mix and my first ever Tren run is absolutely incredible. I inject .75 EOD which keeps the blood extremely stable and minimal sides. The two major sides for me were aggression and sleep which I have both under control. No heartburn, night sweats, I did cough pretty bad once. Oh yes and the sex on it is crazy. I highly recommend Cardarine along with the cycle. I had a picture up for a day and removed it just after two weeks the results were great. Remember more is not always good.

Best of luck to you and enjoy the ride.
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After reading your log and Maxmuscle suggesting lower test, I think I'll run the same 1:1 ratio but may start at 250mg/wk each.

GC has the same blend I'll be trying. Their Tri-Blend is Tren A, Test P, Mast P at 100mg/ml ea. Gonna add some Cialis daily as I've read that helps with any BP issues, overall blood flow, and why not add some boner pills. My wife is gonna get worn out. She loves it for a while when I'm on a good blast but eventually starts saying I'm tearing her up...lol

Your log was helpful, appreciated it. I had some sleep issues when running TPP/NPP and Adrol at higher doses so I've battled that before. Waking up every fuckin hour or so. Some melatonin before bed helped me.

Thanks again man
 
mayhem124 said:
After reading your log and Maxmuscle suggesting lower test, I think I'll run the same 1:1 ratio but may start at 250mg/wk each.

GC has the same blend I'll be trying. Their Tri-Blend is Tren A, Test P, Mast P at 100mg/ml ea. Gonna add some Cialis daily as I've read that helps with any BP issues, overall blood flow, and why not add some boner pills. My wife is gonna get worn out. She loves it for a while when I'm on a good blast but eventually starts saying I'm tearing her up...lol

Your log was helpful, appreciated it. I had some sleep issues when running TPP/NPP and Adrol at higher doses so I've battled that before. Waking up every fuckin hour or so. Some melatonin before bed helped me.

Thanks again man
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Anytime. Enjoy brother and let me know if you have any other questions.
 
I would run the Tren at 100mg per week to start....get the most out of the lowest dose possible. After 25 years of using gear, lower doses is always better if you can achieve the results that you seek.

As a side note...Tren is of satan....very evil with no compassion.
 
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ldog said:
I would run the Tren at 100mg per week to start....get the most pout of the lowest dose possible. After 25 years of using gear, lower doses is always better if you can achieve the results that you seek.

As a side note...Tren is of satan....very evil with no compassion.
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100mg/wk...start that low? I know by specs tren is some strong shit but that strong? I guess at 5x the strength of test that is equal to 500mg test, at 300mg/wk tren that's like running 1.5g of test. Hmmm...makes sense.
 
mayhem124 said:
100mg/wk...start that low? I know by specs tren is some strong shit but that strong? I guess at 5x the strength of test that is equal to 500mg test, at 300mg/wk tren that's like running 1.5g of test. Hmmm...makes sense.
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Have you ran tren before? If not, 100/wk will treat you right. Buckle up.
 
Multislacking said:
Have you ran tren before? If not, 100/wk will treat you right. Buckle up.
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Nope, 1st run with tren. At 100mg/wk tren would you just run a cruise dose of Test like 200mg/wk just to keep normal test lvls? Run a small dose of Mast at 200mg/wk for free test #s. I love Mast...always feel great with it even in low #s.
 
mayhem124 said:
Nope, 1st run with tren. At 100mg/wk tren would you just run a cruise dose of Test like 200mg/wk just to keep normal test lvls? Run a small dose of Mast at 200mg/wk for free test #s. I love Mast...always feel great with it even in low #s.
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Test/mast/tren = best combo ever. You'll love it. I've ran tren ace as low as 14mg ED. Run what dose of test you want to...trt levels or 500mg week. If you're bulking, higher test obviously. A smidge of tren will have you feeling like superman in the gym and bedroom.
 
Multislacking said:
Test/mast/tren = best combo ever. You'll love it. I've ran tren ace as low as 14mg ED. Run what dose of test you want to...trt levels or 500mg week. If you're bulking, higher test obviously. A smidge of tren will have you feeling like superman in the gym and bedroom.
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Nah, cutting/show prep. Really want to run tren to maintain as much muscle when the cut gets serious in the last 4-6 weeks.

I'm just cruising on low test/npp right now at maintainance cal. Won't start show prep until 12wks out so plan on running test/tren/mast for 10-12wks. Might run winny last 2 weeks.
 
mayhem124 said:
Nah, cutting/show prep. Really want to run tren to maintain as much muscle when the cut gets serious in the last 4-6 weeks.

I'm just cruising on low test/npp right now at maintainance cal. Won't start show prep until 12wks out so plan on running test/tren/mast for 10-12wks. Might run winny last 2 weeks.
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Who is your coach?
 
Multislacking said:
Can't beat friends. If you ever want some extra help, PM me.
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1st show in Men's Physique so it will be a good learning experience. I appreciate the help and input here. I'll let you know if I need some help down the road.

It is kinda weird having a coach that isn't running the cycle protocol as well but I can manage that with some input here. Key part of show prep is diet, conditioning and posing.
 
mayhem124 said:
1st show in Men's Physique so it will be a good learning experience. I appreciate the help and input here. I'll let you know if I need some help down the road.

It is kinda weird having a coach that isn't running the cycle protocol as well but I can manage that with some input here. Key part of show prep is diet, conditioning and posing.
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Physique is a good experience. Let us know how it goes. Your coach probably has some good insight...don't fret because they are doing something slightly different. We're all on a journey. Learn from it...good or bad.
 
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