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    2nd Cycle

    First cycle was 500mg testosterone E for 3 1/2 months.
    I am 6í0
    212lbs
    Sitting around 16% BF I can see abs in good lighting most of the fat is around my trunk.

    My goal is Strength and Size. I want to pack on as much muscle tissue as possible.

    I would like to do a longer cycle. With my focus/Frequency more on my Legs, Arms, and shoulders.

    I have plenty of options.
    I have
    Dbol 50mg
    Anavar 25 mg and 50mg
    Proviron 50mg
    Adex/Caber/Nolvadex/Clomid
    Test E 400 and 250
    Deca 400
    EQ 500
    A blend of Deca/EQ 300/300
    Tren E 200
    A blend of TPP 125 and Tren A 100

    I will be getting blood work before I blast. But assuming everything is GTG what would be a badass 2nd Cycle. I felt like my first cycle of 500mg test e got boring and my Estradiol caught up with me towards the end so I came off. I didnít use much AI the entire cycle. Took Nolvadex and Arimidex puffy nips and water retention dropped quickly. I felt like a sponge towards the end so I do have a tendency to hold water.
    My diet is clean 90% of the time. Iíve been eating a grip of eggs, chicken, rice, oatmeal unflavored, cream of rice, and pancakes with sugar free everything. Of course I am supplementing greens and have fish oils, magnesium/calcium, Tudca, NAC, probiotics, fiber, and a multivitamin. I do have a BP cuff to keep eyes on BP.

    Needless to say Iím ready to blast again mentally. Need bloods to back it. Looking to start right around Christmas time


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    Also considering adding YK11 and MK677 to whatever cycle as an alternative to GH.


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    It's safe to assume if you want to put on some quality size, Deca is probably on the menu.
    Lots of good threads and info re deca cycles on the forum to dig into.

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    I'll second Deca given your goals ... around 250-300mg/weekly. Remember less is more at first ... no need to overdo it. 500 test / 300 deca will open the pathway for substantial growth if you provide them quality calories. Provi / mast helps with any libido issues from Deca as well.

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    For a second cycle Iíd say 500mg/week of test with 250mg/week or so of Deca. You could always add some dbol in there (25mg/day). You will hold water on this cycle but you will grow. Dbol will need to be ended after 4-6weeks or your kidneys will burn like fire. At least mine do.

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    Less is more I agree. I do want quality gains. I donít mind holding water. Itís super annoying and gross feeling but it falls right off. So Iím not worried about weight too much. Not for this cycle at least. Maybe for a cut.

    I hear people say things about deca loving quality calories. But what does that even mean haha? I donít really eat like shit but Iím also not very tight with what Iím consuming lately. Is that going to be an issue?

    Also if others second the Dbol I would love to add that in too. I hear great things about how you feel on dbol. On a side note is it recommended to use Nolvadex for those 4-6 weeks as a preventative measure? Also when would you start taking Tudca and NAC? From the jump? Iíve read mixed things about when to start liver support on orals.


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    2 more things. How would you break up dbol dosages with 50mg pills? Half emí then take a fourth breakfast (pre-workout for me) than a dinner?

    Second, what is it about mast that helps with Deca Dick? Is there some sort of binding affect Iím not knowing about? Iím curious where I can find more info.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sxboicexb View Post
    2 more things. How would you break up dbol dosages with 50mg pills? Half emí then take a fourth breakfast (pre-workout for me) than a dinner?

    Second, what is it about mast that helps with Deca Dick? Is there some sort of binding affect Iím not knowing about? Iím curious where I can find more info.


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    The dbol break down you said will work fine. I like to take a heavier dose pre workout myself tho.
    And mast helps with free test which helps with libido and an overall sense of good well being.
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    Is 50mg too much for a second cycle


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    Quote Originally Posted by sxboicexb View Post
    Is 50mg too much for a second cycle


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    No itís not to much thatís a good dose to use.
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    Everyone is different but I donít use AI unless youíre having symptoms. I often run 500-750mg/week with zero AI. I will split up my doses into multiple pins a week and doing so has helped me not see any hints of sides that I used to see when running a cycle with one weekly pins.

    Ēquality caloriesĒ would mean healthy foods and not junk, thatís all. Sounds like you eat fairly well so even if you go off your diet youíll be fine. Just make sure youíre eating enough to grow. I recommend 500-800 cal beyond your daily Caligoric need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sxboicexb View Post
    Is 50mg too much for a second cycle


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    make sure u got some nolvadex for the sore nips that sometimes accompany d-bol. imo 600 test/ 300 deca/ 50 mgs d-bol ed-25 am/25 pm and some provi/ and or mast will give u exactly what u are looking for. (50 mgs provi a day keeps the deca dick away) now that i think about it, maybe just leave the mast for next time. don't want to overdue it bro. good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.font401 View Post
    No itís not to much thatís a good dose to use.
    hey bro- whose arms are those- did u get Custom to pose for your avi? lol- looking good there big man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hot rod View Post
    hey bro- whose arms are those- did u get Custom to pose for your avi? lol- looking good there big man!
    I told him his arms look bigger with his pants off.... he fell for it! But look how sweet the pic came out! Lmao

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    Sweet sounds like I may push the test to 600 and deca 300 when should I add dbol? Should I go from first pin or wait a few weeks?
    I have provi but may need to be a little conservative I probably have 10 weeks worth. At 50mg ED

    Does taurine really help with back pumps btw?


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