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    Help with libido

    I running test e for trt. I having an serious issue with libido and keeping it up. I can get hard but it dies after a few. For years I was on test and adex keeping test in 900 estradiol 20-35. I have tried lowering test to 600 and dropping adex, estradiol same. No difference. I had issue for a while. Cialis kinda helps but not really.

    Someone recommended trying hcg. 500 or more 2-3 times a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gains2NV View Post
    I running test e for trt. I having an serious issue with libido and keeping it up. I can get hard but it dies after a few. For years I was on test and adex keeping test in 900 estradiol 20-35. I have tried lowering test to 600 and dropping adex, estradiol same. No difference. I had issue for a while. Cialis kinda helps but not really.

    Someone recommended trying hcg. 500 or more 2-3 times a week.

    Any ideas?



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    Try the HCG. Makes a huge difference in libido for me now. Didn't ever need it before but it helps now.

    Get some blood work. As you get older you may be getting more aromatization and your estrogen might be too high. That's been the case for me very much as I age. I need far more AI now to have proper sexual function, which sucks because I legitimately grow better with higher e2.

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    MT1(pt-141) or MT2 can work for men and women. Also keeping good total/free test, E2 control. Cabergoline can improve orgasms as well. So, basically bloodwork May hold the key.

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    Have you ever ran provi or mast? Does wonders for this.

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    Good point guys. Free test could be the issue. Mast, proviron, or stinging nettle root all help that get higher. Too low of DHT can also cause issues, which I found out about earlier this year. I was already on stinging nettle and was having issues, adding just 150mg mast weekly made a huge difference

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    I usually do the hormone for females panel every 6 months. Other than free test level what else should I run. I'll go get a new set of labs with more info. I usually only paid attention to total test and estradiol.

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    And I haven't ran anything else in years. Ok I'll look into hcg and even mast. I was looking at that new trt blend they have maybe I'll grab a little and give it a try.

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    Free test number is more important then total test #ís.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarlicChicken View Post
    Good point guys. Free test could be the issue. Mast, proviron, or stinging nettle root all help that get higher. Too low of DHT can also cause issues, which I found out about earlier this year. I was already on stinging nettle and was having issues, adding just 150mg mast weekly made a huge difference
    How much of the root? That cheap so I'll add it anyway.

    I'll do some research on hcg, mast, and proviron. Any recommendations on one over the other? I really don't care pill or shot.

    Thanks guys.

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    Here is an old post about why I personally like Mast or proviron with my TRT dose..



    TRT Stack

    Here's my recent bloods on 200mg Pharma script Test Cyp WITH MAST AND PROVIRON!

    As many of you know I blast & cruise, more blasting than cruising with switch hitting.. I had blood work that was expected to be pulled from my Doc, he actually forgot and I had to remind him, it worked out well because I wanted to come off for a bit and do a little small cruise (6 weeks'ish) and give my CNS a moment to recoup as well as giving my REC's a brake..

    I figured this would also be a great opportunity to take advantage of Masteron and Proviron used in conjunction with my TRT.. For the following reasons to keep libido strong, depression at a low at the same time optimizing the most out of my TRT dosage..

    The addition with Proviron & Masteron is that it's a useful tool for the TRT user and specifically for those that cruise on low "T" doses who wish to inhibit the conversion of T to estrogen. By inhibiting the aromatase enzyme, Masteron would be in effect blocking the conversion of free testosterone to estrogen by the aromatization pathway Yielding great levels of Free usable test. This would not only serve to marginally increase the amounts of active free testosterone in circulation (thus giving a greater effect of the testosterone during a TRT treatment or cruise).. With this said, I was just using 200mgs Script test-cyp E7D (with script adex .5 E3D) and Masteron-200 E7D and proviron at 50mg ED this ultimately created a match made in heaven, a complimentary duo!

    Bloods were pulled 3 days after last pin and I was fasted and the panel was a sensitive essay (I wanted to see if my BS levels would effect estrogen total serum by way of estrone elevation due to fasting).. I have BS issues along with a family history of diabetes, the serum levels were extremely high and I doubt there was cross-reactivity of anything else due to the fact that E2 was low.. Being in a fasted state seems to be the culprit..

    Further more, people tend to put blood serum numbers in a standard range of expectancy.. I've always advocated that I'm a slow/low metabolizer, even at 200mg which is the high end of TRT treatment and I barely scraped the high end.. It proves that this truly is NOT a one size fits all..

    My closing comments : Libido was great, appetite was strong and I have no complaints, my sense of well-being was on point..The extreme low SHBG levels IMO are directly associated with the mast/prov, thus the result of low estro and higher free T..This can explain why I continued to feel great even after lowering my T dosage significantly..

    I will continually use Mast and/or Proviron with every cruise I do! https://puritysourcelabs.ru/

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    There's an Easter egg here that's hidden inside of all of this, it's something I don't want people to miss.

    This goes to prove that you really don't need much test.. I laughed when I see guys chasing a total serum number, they are expecting numbers in or around the 3k + range and they believe that this is where you need to be in order to make the most progress.. I will say this again, stop chasing total serums and focus on free test levels.. people can have 3000 of bound test and that doesn't mean anything, in fact that testosterone is useless..

    People should incorporate compounds that are complementary with freeing up bound testosterone into more bioavailable testosterone..

    The moral of my point, is free up your test levels and let all of the other compounds be the workhorse..

    Know how to optimize your testosterone levels so they can work best for you.. it's not quantity but rather qualities..
    I would rather have several hundred work horses, compared to 3000 useless horses..


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    Testosterone replacement therapy is as much an art as it is a science.
    www.Euro-Pharmacies.net understands this concept this is why EP has designed and engineered the most sought-after ratio of hormones on the anabolic market today.
    Through the treatment of Testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) one should be given based on symptoms instead of just blood values.
    If you have no energy, gain fat easily, having trouble putting on muscle, have a low libido, and suffer from depression, you may need TRT.
    Especially if you feel this after a cycle/blast with a so-called successful "PCT"..
    (Blood work should be taken to see if you are on the low end of the T spectrum)
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    Some benefits of this TRT stack may come rather quickly, such as increased libido as this may/can improve within weeks,
    as can depression subsiding, loss of body fat and an increase in muscle and a overall sense of well being! www.PuritySourceLabs.ru

    Androgen replacement therapy (ART), often referred to as testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), is a class of hormone replacement therapy in which androgens, often testosterone, are replaced (and can be utilized for cruises between cycles/blasts). ART is often prescribed to counter the effects of male hypogonadism. It typically involves the administration of testosterone through injections of Testosterone. www.PuritySourceLabs.ru

    ART is also employed after a cycle/blast for those that wish to stay "ON" to lessen the effects of being shut down, as user may notice changes caused by a relative decline in testosterone: TRT is employed to avoid fewer erections, fatigue, thinning skin, declining muscle mass and strength, more body fat. Dissatisfaction with these changes causes some users to lose appetite, and most gains made during their cycle. Most of all, TRT/cruise is utilized to help keep that healthy state of well-being while giving their body a rest between cycles/blasts..

    The addition of Masteron in the blend is partially due to its anti-estrogen properties, and we say this for great reason. Masteron is a derivative of DHT (dihydrotestosterone) and does not convert to estrogen through the means of aromatization. It is thought that the anti-estrogenic properties of Masteron may be in part to do with either an inhibition in some way of the aromatase enzyme or an interaction with estrogen itself in a way which blocks receptor binding of the estrogen.

    Either way, it's a WIN-WIN situation this would put Masteron as a very useful tool for the AAS user and specifically for those that cruise on low "T" doses who wish to inhibit the conversion of T to estrogen -

    by inhibiting the aromatase enzyme, Masteron would be in effect blocking the conversion of testosterone to estrogen by the aromatization pathway Yielding greater levels of Free usable test. (HIGHER FREE T LEVELS)
    This would not only serve to marginally increase the amounts of active free testosterone in circulation (thus giving a greater effect of the testosterone during a TRT treatment or cruise)..Most TRT users report almost no need for AI's during this treatment with Low to moderate Testosterone ran concurrently with Masteron.

    Average Testosterone Enanthate dosages are anywhere from 125mgs to 250mgs weekly, with just 200mgs a week of Masteron creating a match made in heaven, a complimentary duo!

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    I' have the same issue as well. I am very sensitive to the changes in test/estro/dht etc. Sometimes I go thru weeks where I'm really horny and other weeks I won't be able to sustain an erection, almost like I'm taking deca. It's strange. And the weird part is that I keep my amounts of everything the same. Sometimes our bodies change due to many things. I'm still figuring it out.

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    I been doing test C n Mast E for a while now best stack for me 200 to 250 of T n 400 M a week no Ai for me estrogen high but no sides dont use you need estrogen for libido my is high no problem n im 53 years gains are hard n dry you can check my blood test on dutchpharma test was 3500 estrogen 150 blood lipids good everything good hdl low but thats expected i follow broderick chavez check him out on you tube very smart guy


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    Quote Originally Posted by salvaje1028 View Post
    I been doing test C n Mast E for a while now best stack for me 200 to 250 of T n 400 M a week no Ai for me estrogen high but no sides dont use you need estrogen for libido my is high no problem n im 53 years gains are hard n dry you can check my blood test on dutchpharma test was 3500 estrogen 150 blood lipids good everything good hdl low but thats expected i follow broderick chavez check him out on you tube very smart guy


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    It is a very underestimated and misunderstood combination, people always look at the bigger picture trying to makes sense with using mast for its cosmetic purposes, all the while not a lot of people are aware of its off-label properties. I try telling people to forget about the whole lower body fat ratio concept, that we're not even using mast for that purpose with this protocol. It's being Incorporated for everything that you stated above, it does help control estrogen and whatever estrogen is in circulation is beneficial, and it is just very complimentary with testosterone..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarbeyondDriven View Post
    I' have the same issue as well. I am very sensitive to the changes in test/estro/dht etc. Sometimes I go thru weeks where I'm really horny and other weeks I won't be able to sustain an erection, almost like I'm taking deca. It's strange. And the weird part is that I keep my amounts of everything the same. Sometimes our bodies change due to many things. I'm still figuring it out.

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    Isn't that's something else? It is truly bizarre when you are on the same protocol and regiment with something that is basically a cookie cutter for you, then all of a sudden you start getting the side effects and other indications that things are going on that mimic and duplicate an entirely different hormone. It's funny, back at the end of July going into the beginning of August I completely removed Mast, and within a week or so I had the worst of Gyno in my life in fact it was the worst I've ever seen. it was so large it protruded out of my shirt, it came on within 48 hours, the skin was black and blue and stretching. I immediately targeted the symptoms very aggressively with tamoxifen, I did increase my arimidex but I knew that would do nothing instantly, as fast as this happened it went away just as quick, then it went to the other side.. Even worse. I've never seen anything like it and it was the moment I stopped Mast with my TRT.. I added caber at a pretty hefty breakthrough dosage. everything cleared up within 2 weeks, I pulled blood work 2 weeks after that and W2 was at 22, and my total test 1250+.. that is the highest I've ever pulled a total test on cyp at 200mg, and my bloods were 6 days out. and like you said the libido was all over the place.

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