methyl tren I think is what got prohormones banned. that shit hit me like day 4 with negative sides had to drop it. SD is right there with it feel like complete shit 3 week in, in my opinion I stay away from compounds that make you feel like shit. my opinion you wanna feel great and fired up to workout, you dont wanna regret using this shit dropping your cycle and waiting for it to clear your system.I dont always know exactly what "toxic" means, but off the top of my head:
Class 1 (extremely toxic) - Methyl Tren, Halotestin, Cheque Drops
Class 2 (very toxic) - M1T, Superdrol, Anadrol
Class 3 (pretty damn toxic) - Dbol, winstrol, tbol, anavar
Class 4 (not all that toxic) - proviron, oral primo
totally agree-i'm the total opposite of you- can't stand s-drol-feel like shit- love a-var feel great- a-drol can deal with, but rather do d-bol- go figure? bloods pretty good on all of them so..... don't think any are TOXIC- Unless u do stupid amounts for stupid amts. of time- in other words-abuse them- imagine that- abuse drugs. wouldn't know a thing about that-lol bottom line-be smart and stay healthy!I no longer pay any attention to those charts like I used to, because everyone is different and reacts differently to various compounds. For instance, Anavar kicks my azz and I cannot remain on it for more than two weeks regadless of dosage from 30mg to 50mg daily. But Superdrol has become one of my favorites and my blood work stays pretty good while I've been on it for 8 weeks straight. Go figure. Same with Anadrol. I do well on it. Even for 10 weeks my blood work remains good while on it even at high dosages. So much for charts and lists, eh? Everyone will react differently. Which is why we all need to have blood work done. You just never know how you will react
I think Dbol is one of the most underrated orals. For me you can't beat it. It literally makes me feel great and negatively affects my lipids the least. Also winny and anavar combo. I wont use them separately any more. I haven't had terrible liver values ever really. I will lose my apatite with some orals if I stay on them to long.. which if that happens I might as well come off what ever it is im using as it wont help anything at that point. Steroids with out food is like cereal with no milk.
Mistake about Superdrol :"Anabolic" refers to muscle building, and "androgenic" refers to increased male sex characteristics.
Personally if i compare 30mg Stano and 30mg Dianabol, i think a lot Stano are less toxic.I’ve been searching the web for about 20 minutes to no avail on a mg to mg toxicity chart. I’ll keep looking but I also would like to see this.
But generally (and feel free to chime in guys because I’m no expert)
Anavar (low toxicity)
Dianabol (low-mid toxicity)
Anadrol (mid toxicity)
Turinobol (mid- high toxicity)
Winstrol (high toxicity)
Halo (super high toxicity)
Thoughts?
Anadrol never killed my appetite. I always felt good on itIf anavar and dbol makes you feel good and with hunger they are the less toxic probably, because anadrol and winny kills your hunger even low dosages
I have wondered another thing too idk if I should start w new thread but...if u drink zero alcohol and don't eat junk, how dangerous are orals actually?
Honestly what’s on paper doesn’t correlate to real life or to everyone. I get worse bloods and sides from real var and Winnie than I do with adrol or dbol. Var and winnie destroy my bloodwork. I ran drol at 150mg a day for 8 weeks and the only thing that changed was a slight elevation in liver values.Hope this helps
Sdrol had me feeling lethargic at 30mg a day for 4 weeks but there was no real effect on my blood workStill toxic. As already mentioned, methyl tren is about the worst thing there is. I tapped out in a week due to liver pain and was 100% clean and healthy at the time (and had been for a couple of years). And I always run liver support while on any oral. Some of that shit is just toxic. Sdrol would probably rank 2nd in my experiences, but I haven't tried them all by any means.
X2 same with me too.Honestly what’s on paper doesn’t correlate to real life or to everyone. I get worse bloods and sides from real var and Winnie than I do with adrol or dbol. Var and winnie destroy my bloodwork. I ran drol at 150mg a day for 8 weeks and the only thing that changed was a slight elevation in liver values.