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    Blast time

    Alright, so between getting sick, moving, and just the chaos of life ive taken about a month and a half off of training and what not, but now its time to kicking things back in motion, got myself a new gym since i moved so i figured well its probably time to hit a good blast and bulk up for this Fall/Winter so below is what I am looking at feel free to throw in any input, I am very open minded and dont mine experimenting.

    Sust 500mg wk 1-12

    tren hex 75mg eod wk 1-12
    Deca 400mg 1-10
    Npp 100mg eod 1-4 (not totally sure about this one, just love how quickly NPP kicks in)
    Anavar 50mg wk 1-4
    Cardarine 20mg wk 1-8 (Using for the endurance increase, not fat loss)

    Have caber, adex, nolv all on hand if needed all from my dr.

    Stats 204 lbs am weight, 5'11", 12% bf, training since 06'
    Will be strength training 6x week (legs, back/calfs, shoulders, chest, arms, shoulders) really want to focus on widening my upper body n capping my delts.
    Cardio 4-5x week am fasted, stationary bike
    Cals im looking to bring in roughly 3500-3700 cals a day

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    the only thing that jumps out @ me is that's alot of nandrolone. 7-800 mgs a wk if i'm reading it right( 400 deca, 3-400 npp) Think i would up the sust/test to @ least equal to the nandros-but that's just me. maybe throw in some proviron for dick issues- or another idea- do the npp eod and just do 200 deca once a wk for the joint help and let the npp do most of the work. all just suggestions- love me some hex- good luck bro!

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    The man loves his 19-nors. If you feel good on that much Id say do it up. In my experience 19-nors are the strongest muscle builders as a group, but I cant tolerate em for shit. Id need my test sky high for that much nandrolone and tren, and id still be walking around depressed with no sex drive and achy nipples.

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    hot rod, would you run the npp the whole time or just use it like a kickstart like i was planning for the deca? If I end up running the npp the whole time I wouldnt incorporate the deca, The reason I have the deca is the size n strength i get, npp i dont get as much size more of just a harder look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungan23 View Post
    hot rod, would you run the npp the whole time or just use it like a kickstart like i was planning for the deca? If I end up running the npp the whole time I wouldnt incorporate the deca, The reason I have the deca is the size n strength i get, npp i dont get as much size more of just a harder look.
    they are really SUPPOSED to be the exact same thing,just diff. esters. HOWEVER, i swear it SEEMS like i get more joint relief from deca. Don't know why, but the last time i did npp,got great results but very little joint relief. Don't know if joint pain is as big of an issue w/you.But i'm on the MATURE side(an old fucker)so i lean more towards deca-simply for that reason. And it's almost annoyingly SLOW to act-but to me it's worth the wait. i guess to answer your question- think i would just do 1 or the other and keep it simple- now that i have complicated the shit out of it-lol BUT- U could certainly do both- Someone should make a deca/npp blend and simplify it for us-lol good luck bro!

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    750-1gr of Test
    400-600 Deca
    50mgs Dbol wks 4-8
    Keep it simple,you're over thinking it..no Tren

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    Why do you say no tren? this would be my first time running hex i was excited to give it a shot

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    Some ppl get bad sides from nandros ive not had much issue running them higher than my test as long as I do 250mg wk test im solid only issue ive had is my dick once in awhile doesn't want to corporate with me thats where bumping the test here and there helps.. take a look at euro guys that juice they run strong Andros with little no test alot different overseas, to each their own tho.

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    Tren causes too many sides which will derail the cycle,plus Tren I'd not a mass builder in my book...tried and true mass is Test/Deca/Dbol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungan23 View Post
    Why do you say no tren? this would be my first time running hex i was excited to give it a shot
    he's just jealous he's too old to run it(he's a grumpy old man)go for it dude! just be prepared for the sides( tren cough-maybe, insomnia-probably, nite sweats- guaranteed- among others) but everyone needs to do it once imo- may be first and last time- may not mess w/u like it does most- only 1 way to find out- and hex usually not as bad as say tren "A"- Good luck man- just fuckin w/ya Z-man (but that cycle he posted is prob. the most tried and true cycle there is-def. proven to work)

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    Quote Originally Posted by weazel View Post
    Some ppl get bad sides from nandros ive not had much issue running them higher than my test as long as I do 250mg wk test im solid only issue ive had is my dick once in awhile doesn't want to corporate with me thats where bumping the test here and there helps.. take a look at euro guys that juice they run strong Andros with little no test alot different overseas, to each their own tho.
    throw in some proviron bro- eliminates any and all dick issues FOR ME.

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    Hey Rod..just getting back on my feet..been down for a couple of wks..no gym for like 2 1/2 wks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zionoir626 View Post
    Hey Rod..just getting back on my feet..been down for a couple of wks..no gym for like 2 1/2 wks..
    u been catchin hell ain't ya bro- glad to hear ur feeling better man! i'll pm or e-mail you in a bit

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    Haha no worries brother im on top of the proviron, i definitely dont want any dick issues

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