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EQ - worthless or useful piece of the puzzle?

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There are pros that swear by EQ, Fouad abiad says Test/EQ is his go to cycle, he does like 1.5 gram with a bunch of test pretty sure.

I can see that. Hes always full as hell and vascular. Im pretty much decided on giving it another go. Ill probably work my way up to the gram mark and see what all the hype is about.

Weeks 1-6:
900 mg TIPP/week
750 mg EQ/week
100 mg Anadrol/day

Weeks 7-12:
1200 mg TIPP/week
1000 mg EQ/week

Weeks 13-18:
1200 mg TIPP/week
1000 mg EQ/week
100 mg Anadrol/day

Let's see if I can turn my blood to maple syrup
 
I can see that. Hes always full as hell and vascular. Im pretty much decided on giving it another go. Ill probably work my way up to the gram mark and see what all the hype is about.

Weeks 1-6:
900 mg TIPP/week
750 mg EQ/week
100 mg Anadrol/day

Weeks 7-12:
1200 mg TIPP/week
1000 mg EQ/week

Weeks 13-18:
1200 mg TIPP/week
1000 mg EQ/week
100 mg Anadrol/day

Let's see if I can turn my blood to maple syrup

waste of time and money and pinning imo, fouad isnt telling us how hes prolly getting vet grade shit stright from a farm ..
or he is full of shit and running tren or something and passing it off as eq.
 
waste of time and money and pinning imo, fouad isnt telling us how hes prolly getting vet grade shit stright from a farm ..
or he is full of shit and running tren or something and passing it off as eq.
he says in one of his podcast he gets it from a normal UGL, not even pharm grade as he doesn't believe in that, yes he also uses high dose tren but not all the time, I don't think he uses tren in off season, just going by what I hear on the podcast cause I listen to it just about everyday
 
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thinking "vascularity is a gain" now thats even funnier than believing you're being told the truth from an “pro" on his podcast
 
If you can afford it, add it in.. it's versatile and can be used for any goal. But that is my logic with most things.. so instead of having a "Test Base" or something like that, that most people recommend.. I recommend a Test, EQ, Mast base. Pretty simple.
 
thinking "vascularity is a gain" now thats even funnier than believing you're being told the truth from an “pro" on his podcast

I don't remember seeing anybody making that claim, but I see a lot of people writing a compound off completely because it doesn't lay down large amounts of LBM. That is equally laughable to me but notice I haven't felt the need to demean anyone.
 
waste of time and money and pinning imo, fouad isnt telling us how hes prolly getting vet grade shit stright from a farm ..
or he is full of shit and running tren or something and passing it off as eq.

This is all a waste of time in the grand scheme of things. Every benefit of gear is transient and temporary.
 
I don't remember seeing anybody making that claim, but I see a lot of people writing a compound off completely because it doesn't lay down large amounts of LBM. That is equally laughable to me but notice I haven't felt the need to demean anyone.

You misunderstood. What you should have understood is people writing off eq because using eq puts you at an elevated risk for stroke, with little to no gains.


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You misunderstood. What you should have understood is people writing off eq because using eq puts you at an elevated risk for stroke, with little to no gains.


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If it's safe for horses, it's safe for humans.
 
I don't remember seeing anybody making that claim, but I see a lot of people writing a compound off completely because it doesn't lay down large amounts of LBM. That is equally laughable to me but notice I haven't felt the need to demean anyone.

I have some of the worst genetics for bodybuilding and response to gear, so if I can tell a difference when I'm using EQ then that's saying something. But I do acknowledge that some people don't respond well to EQ, but I wouldn't completely write it off because of those people, because if it DOES work for you, then it's a great alternative to nandrolone - which is a relief if you are like me and don't particularly like the side effects of deca and can't always afford primo.
 
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I like EQ even at lower doses like 300-400mg I still notice the effects. Fuller muscles, dry gains.. DHB is the shit though.

What you running that DHB at my man? PM the lab if you will. I've gotten thru 1 jug of DHB no pip. 1st pin of the 2nd jug the pip was unbearable. Just as the boys said. It's Like getting hit with a bat. I stopped using it. I was starting to notice it tho just before I did.
 
thinking "vascularity is a gain" now thats even funnier than believing you're being told the truth from an “pro" on his podcast

what would be a motive for lying about your cycle? The only motive I can see is trying to downplay it in which case you'd probably just say lower dosages and/or less compounds, and he doesn't seem to be someone to do that cause he says all the tons of shit he takes and includes the high doses. The segment in question they are all going around the room saying their "go to" cycle and he says Test+EQ. You think he is trying to be cool or something saying he does TEST+EQ as his main off season cycle? I can't remember but he says like 2 grams of test and a gram and half of eq. I don't see that as a downplay.
 
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Boldenone Undecylenate is a testosterone derived anabolic androgenic steroid that is best known by the trade name Equipoise given to it by Squibb in the 1970’s. While Equipoise is officially classified as a veterinarian grade anabolic steroid, the first batches of Boldenone were introduced on the human grade pharmaceutical market by Ciba in the early 1950’s under the brand name Parenabol. Human grade Boldenone would see some success in human medicine through the 1960’s and 70’s but would ultimately be discontinued by the end of the decade. Since that time, the steroid has only been available through veterinarian medicine and underground labs with the Equipoise name dominating the market. Fort Dodge Animal Health now owns the Equipoise name.

[https://www]*For decades, it has been assumed that Equipoise was very similar to Deca Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate). This assumption was in part based on comments the late Dan Duchaine made about the steroid. However, the two compounds are not similar in any way; in fact, Duchaine would recant the statement, but the initial statement has been enough to keep the rumor alive. If Equipoise shares anything in common with another anabolic steroidal hormone, it would be testosterone, but EQ as it’s commonly known is unique in its own right. An important note regarding the differences in these two steroidal hormones; Nandrolone carries a strong progestin nature, while Boldenone carries no progestin characteristics.

Equipoise Functions & Traits:

Equipoise (Boldenone Undecylenate) is a structurally altered form of testosterone. It is a very slight change in an added double bond at the carbon one and two position. This double bond greatly reduces the hormone’s androgenicity, as well as estrogenic nature. It is then attached to the very large or long Undecylenate ester, which is responsible for controlling the release of the hormone once administered into the body. The Undecylenate ester allows for a peak release in Boldenone approximately 3-4 days after injection, with a slow continuous release of the hormone to follow for approximately 21 days.

Due to its structural change, Equipoise only aromatizes at approximately 50% the rate of testosterone. Estrogenic side effects are possible, but the odds are highly in the individual’s favor compared to testosterone. It is not as powerful of a mass builder as testosterone, not even close, but the reduced estrogenic activity should allow the individual to make cleaner gains through supplementation.

Equipoise shares many similarities regarding direct enhancement properties with testosterone. Common shared properties include its ability to enhance protein synthesis, nitrogen retention in the muscles, inhibit glucocorticoid hormones and increase IGF-1 output. Equipoise is also well known for increasing red blood cell count, a trait shared by most all anabolic steroids. However, issues of concern have been noted regarding how much Equipoise can increase red blood cell count. But available data tends to support this only being a concern with extremely high dose use for extremely long periods of time. In many ways, the increase in red blood cells provided by Equipoise can be fast and rapid, but may not present a significant advantage or disadvantage compared to most anabolic steroids when used responsibly. Without question, a moderate increase in cell production would be very advantageous for most any athlete.

Effects of Equipoise:

The effects of Equipoise are fairly straightforward. This is a generally well-tolerated anabolic steroid that presents notable anabolic activity in most users in a clean and even fashion. Outside of performance enhancement use, Boldenone did enjoy some success as a human grade steroid for a time. The steroid had some success in treating muscle wasting diseases and osteoporosis, but would ultimately give way to other steroidal options. As a veterinarian steroid, Equipoise is well-known for its use in horses, hence the name “Equipoise” and its similarity to the word “Equestrian.” EQ is often given to horses in an effort to increase lean body weight, which is in part due to the steroid’s ability to increase appetite. An increased appetite is well noted among many performance enhancing athletes that use Equipoise, however, it doesn’t appear to affect everyone the same. Many who use the anabolic steroid report no increase in appetite, it tends to be highly individualistic, but it could be useful for those struggling to consume needed calories.

As an off-season bulking steroid, Equipoise can add quality lean mass gains, but they will not come overnight, and will fall short of many anabolic steroids. Steroids like Deca Durabolin will produce far greater mass results, as will steroids like Anadrol and Dianabol; however, the latter two are often accompanied by large amounts of water retention. Some athletes have, however, reported stronger off-season gains when Equipoise is added to a total off-season stack rather than used as a base steroid. If appetite suppression is an issue, this steroid may very well help you consume the excess calories needed for off-season growth. Of course, while it may not be a tremendous mass building steroid, for some it may produce all the mass they want. Not everyone who uses anabolic steroids is looking for immense gains in size.

Equipoise is also well-noted for promoting increases in strength. An increase in strength can be very beneficial to an off-season mass plan, but perhaps more beneficial to the enhancement of athletic performance. Unfortunately, the extremely long detection time will prohibit many athletes from using EQ. Total detection time can stretch to five months. However, the steroid definitely provides numerous advantages to the athlete, not only in an increase in strength but a notable increase in muscular endurance. Recovery should also be enhanced. Regardless of the desired purpose of use, all who supplement with Equipoise will enjoy these related benefits.

Equipoise can also be used as a cutting steroid; in fact, this may be the most beneficial point of use. This anabolic steroid is an excellent protectant of lean muscle mass. In order to lose body fat, you must burn more calories than you consume, you must be in a caloric deficit, and this will hold true with or without anabolic steroid use. Unfortunately, a calorie deficit puts our lean muscle tissue at risk as the body will often take what it needs in order to meet its energy demands from our lean tissue. Proper dieting can greatly protect our lean muscle mass, but it can only go so far. Without the introduction of an anabolic steroid, some muscle mass will eventually and inevitably be lost. EQ will greatly protect you from this loss in lean tissue, and it has also been shown to have some very nice conditioning effects on the physique. Such effects will be greatly enhanced when combined with a non-aromatizing steroid like Masteron (Drostanolone) or Trenbolone. However, during most cutting plans of a competitive bodybuilding nature, while EQ is commonly used it is normally only used at the frontend of the cutting cycle. It will normally be discontinued during the later half of the plan due to possible estrogenic activity. While total estrogenic activity should be low, during this phase of supplementation any and all estrogenic activity is normally avoided or at least minimized to the lowest point possible.

Side Effects of Equipoise:

Equipoise is a generally well-tolerated anabolic steroid for most men, and is often very well-tolerated by many women when low doses are applied. Side effects of Equipoise use are certainly possible, but most healthy adults should find this anabolic steroid very manageable. In order to help you understand the possible side effects of Equipoise use as well as their management, we have broken them down into their specific categories along with all the related information you’ll need.

[1]*Estrogenic:

The Boldenone hormone does not aromatize heavily, but it is aromatized to estrogen nonetheless. This is due to the testosterone hormone’s interaction with the aromatase enzyme. High levels of estrogen can prove problematic in their promotion of gynecomastia, excess water retention and high blood pressure if water retention becomes severe. Due to the moderate level of aromatizing activity, most men should find related side effects very easy to control. Moderate doses should be manageable, but many will find high doses to require added attention.

In order to combat the estrogenic side effects of Equipoise, an anti-estrogen medication is sometimes needed. Not all will need an anti-estrogen when using this steroid, but it’s always a good idea to at least have one on hand. The anti-estrogen medications you can choose include Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators (SERM’s) like Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) and Aromatase Inhibitors (AI’s) like Arimidex (Anastrozole). AI’s will prove to be the most effective as they inhibit the aromatase process and lower total serum estrogen levels. Unfortunately, they can have a negative impact on cholesterol, which is further enhanced by the use of an aromatizing steroid. SERM’s are not as effective, but they are often enough for many men. SERM’s will not inhibit the aromatase process from occurring, but rather bind at the estrogen receptor preventing the hormone itself from binding. As an added bonus, SERM’s may actually improve cholesterol levels due to their promotion of estrogenic activity in the liver. SERM’s should be your first choice due to potential cholesterol issues AI’s if they can get the job done.
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[2] Androgenic:

Equipoise can produce androgenic side effects such as acne, accelerated hair loss in those predisposed to male pattern baldness and body hair growth. However, the overall androgenicity of this steroid is greatly reduced due to the structural nature that creates EQ in its double bond at the carbon one and two position. Such side effects of Equipoise are still possible, but they will be strongly linked to genetic predisposition, but most will find the threshold is fairly high.

When combating the possible androgenic side effects of Equipoise, it’s important to note they are brought on by the steroid being metabolized by the 5-alpha reductase enzyme. This metabolism will reduce Boldenone to an extremely potent androgen in dihydroboldenone, far more potent than dihydrotestosterone (DHT); however, the total dihydroboldenone activity has proven to be extremely low in human beings. You will further find the androgenic nature of Boldenone will not be significantly affected by 5-alpha reductase inhibitors like Finasteride that are often used to combat the reduction to DHT.

Due to the androgenic nature of Equipoise, women may potentially experience virilization symptoms. Virilization symptoms may include body hair growth, a deepening of the vocal chords and clitoral enlargement. However, the low androgenicity will make this steroid possible to use for some women without such symptoms. At the same time, the extremely slow acting nature of the compound can make it difficult to control regarding blood levels, and alternative steroids may be preferred. Without question, individual sensitivity will dictate a lot. If Equipoise is used and virilization symptoms begin to show, use should be discontinued immediately at their onset and they will fade away. If symptoms begin to show and are ignored, the symptoms may become irreversible.
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[3]*Cardiovascular:

The relative cardiovascular strain brought on by Equipoise should be much less than many anabolic steroids, especially those of an oral nature. Boldenone does have the ability to negatively affect cholesterol ratios, particularly in its ability to suppress HDL levels. However, it should not be of an extreme nature, and should be well within the realm of control for most healthy adults. Of course, the introduction of an AI to combat estrogenic effects will potentially enhance the improper lipid profiles, and should be considered when planning your cholesterol management.

All those who supplement with Equipoise as with all anabolic steroids should keep a close eye on their cholesterol levels, and should ensure they are healthy enough for use before supplementation begins. A cholesterol friendly lifestyle will be very important and should protect most who use Equipoise. Ensure your diet is cholesterol friendly and includes plenty of omega fatty acids. Incorporating plenty of cardiovascular activity is also highly advised.
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WELP! I ended up pulling the trigger on the 10 pack of 500 mg EQ deal. By my calculation thats enough to run a gram for a year straight lol. Ill likely run it up to 1500 mg and maybe more depending how things go. Maybe I'll do a semi-log just to get some high dosed anecdotal experience out there. I think it was Mike Arnold maybe who did that write up about high dosed EQ?
 
WELP! I ended up pulling the trigger on the 10 pack of 500 mg EQ deal. By my calculation thats enough to run a gram for a year straight lol. Ill likely run it up to 1500 mg and maybe more depending how things go. Maybe I'll do a semi-log just to get some high dosed anecdotal experience out there. I think it was Mike Arnold maybe who did that write up about high dosed EQ?

Yes blood pressure, RBC , and anxiety results should be interesting . But serious amplified side effects.


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Yes blood pressure, RBC , and anxiety results should be interesting . But serious amplified side effects.


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Ill pull bloods at least a couple times to see exactly where my RBCs are. Maybe at 3 months and 6 months something like that. Ill be interested to see where my E2 is as well with all this talk lately about EQ metabolizing into an AI.
 
Ill pull bloods at least a couple times to see exactly where my RBCs are. Maybe at 3 months and 6 months something like that. Ill be interested to see where my E2 is as well with all this talk lately about EQ metabolizing into an AI.
Thanks for contributing the blood work man.
A lot of people stopped doing that.
Think the covid has people not wanting to go out that much.
 
Ill pull bloods at least a couple times to see exactly where my RBCs are. Maybe at 3 months and 6 months something like that. Ill be interested to see where my E2 is as well with all this talk lately about EQ metabolizing into an AI.

Dr. O'Connor mentioned in his video that EQ does seem to have mild AI qualities, but they haven't pin pointed just why.
 
Dr. O'Connor mentioned in his video that EQ does seem to have mild AI qualities, but they haven't pin pointed just why.

I think the leading broscience hypothesis is that a metabolite of boldenone is 1,4 dienedione which acts as an AI. But the degree to which it shows up as a metabolite seems to be highly individual.
 
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