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California Tax Breaks for Illegal Aliens

do they pay taxes to begin with, the field workers I talk to get paid a straight dollar amount like $9 to prep fields like an indepent contractor
 
There is coming a day that california is going to experience the worst earthquake in the history of mankind that will literally separate it from the rest of the land and completely off the map and when it does I'll be jumping for joy and screaming, HALLELUJAH BABY!!!

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Actually, it will be a calm and silent inward type of joy.....

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CA, land of the fruits and nuts (and insane libturdz).
 
I'm under the impression if your a illegal alien your working off the books and don't pay taxes anyway.
 
I am not up to speed on how illegal aliens are paid above the table although I do know it happens.

Somehow they get a social security number and do pay taxes although this is more the exception and not the normal. They mostly don't pay taxes.

My bitch is why do this for people who break the law and leave people of the state in the dust.

These prick politicians go out of their way to lick the asshole of illegals and tax the shit out of everyone else.
 
Illegals have a Tin # amd they pay taxes by that number not a social security number. California needs to burn to the ground with all these hard core socialist policies, Cali and new York like to take as many states on board their sinking ship as possible and for some ungodly reason many follow along. Cali heads of state suck donkey dicks.


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I am not up to speed on how illegal aliens are paid above the table although I do know it happens.

Somehow they get a social security number and do pay taxes although this is more the exception and not the normal. They mostly don't pay taxes.

My bitch is why do this for people who break the law and leave people of the state in the dust.

These prick politicians go out of their way to lick the asshole of illegals and tax the shit out of everyone else.
if you are an undocumented/ migrant you dont pay taxes, if you are trying to stay here and not make waves you get a tax ID number not a social, green card holders can take over 10 years to get approved so they are paying taxes for years. the farm workers are good people its their kids that are trouble makers
 
if you are an undocumented/ migrant you dont pay taxes, if you are trying to stay here and not make waves you get a tax ID number not a social, green card holders can take over 10 years to get approved so they are paying taxes for years. the farm workers are good people its their kids that are trouble makers

Good points by both you and HFO3.

My point is not to demonize anybody except the politicians.

Some California state legislators make it their only mission when in office to do everything for illegals and nothing for the citizenry.

It's disgusting
 
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I know of illegals that have a SS number but cannot collect it.

I cannot explain it, but I know for a fact as a guy I know hired an attorney to try and fix his situation.
 
Good points by both you and HFO3.

My point is not to demonize anybody except the politicians.

Some California state legislators make it their only mission when in office to do everything for illegals and nothing for the citizenry.

It's disgusting
actually they are just catching up to the stimulus and bail outs that everybody that is a citizen got. I got a friend that is a citezen of italy, he married a woman here and has a 2 yo boy, he works and she does not so they filed taxes under his tax id as he is head of household, he did not recieve unemployment or the 600 a week stimulus, and his wife and kids got nothing because there are filed under his tax id so the whole family got fucked
 
I don’t know about California’s illegals and how they work but in my state most pay some taxes . They pay other Mexicans that they know to be able to use their social . They than claim the max number of dependents even if they are single . The end of the year the person who’s social it is will file taxes and keep the money if there is any coming back . The legal citizen will charge a fee for letting Jose use their number and also weekly or monthly fees .
 
Illegals have a Tin # amd they pay taxes by that number not a social security number. California needs to burn to the ground with all these hard core socialist policies, Cali and new York like to take as many states on board their sinking ship as possible and for some ungodly reason many follow along. Cali heads of state suck donkey dicks.


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TIN=Taxpayer Identification Number
 
Ca has the 5th largest economy in the world, largest agricultural state in US almost as much oil as alaska and a major producer of seafood 3 major ports, major test bases, you got missle testing at point mugu bombing ranges off shore like san nicolas island new aircraft system testing at edwards airbase nasa projects at mojove skunkworks at palmdale space x in elsegundo space x launch from vandenburg AB nasa electrical at moffett field, JPL propulsion in pasadena. raytheon at el segundo, L3 at carslbad san diego and coronado northrop grummen in van nuys and hawthorn, sunstrand turbines in san diego PGE turbines in oxnard GE turbines I think still has a small shop in ontario ATAC at point mugu, they shuttle engineers from LAX and point mugu to china lake daily and to tonapah AB and san nic island. this is all off the top of my head, dont let the media fill your head with garbage.
 
Ca has the 5th largest economy in the world, largest agricultural state in US almost as much oil as alaska and a major producer of seafood 3 major ports, major test bases, you got missle testing at point mugu bombing ranges off shore like san nicolas island new aircraft system testing at edwards airbase nasa projects at mojove skunkworks at palmdale space x in elsegundo space x launch from vandenburg AB nasa electrical at moffett field, JPL propulsion in pasadena. raytheon at el segundo, L3 at carslbad san diego and coronado northrop grummen in van nuys and hawthorn, sunstrand turbines in san diego PGE turbines in oxnard GE turbines I think still has a small shop in ontario ATAC at point mugu, they shuttle engineers from LAX and point mugu to china lake daily and to tonapah AB and san nic island. this is all off the top of my head, dont let the media fill your head with garbage.

That last statement I'm not sure who that is directed to and what is your point?

5th largest economy with a budget deficit of 50 billion and they can't print money.

Before this flu issue, they spent just about any and all the revenue they projected for this year.

California politicians are drunk on tax and spend.

Yes, California has a lot of oil but regulations have stopped any meaningful amount of production.

From what I have read, California is very dependent on oil imports to keep up with demand.
 
I am not up to speed on how illegal aliens are paid above the table although I do know it happens.

Somehow they get a social security number and do pay taxes although this is more the exception and not the normal. They mostly don't pay taxes.

My bitch is why do this for people who break the law and leave people of the state in the dust.

These prick politicians go out of their way to lick the asshole of illegals and tax the shit out of everyone else.
Yeah they steal SSNs and use those for employment purposes and to cash checks. It's very prevalent where I work where most of the workers are illegal immigrants. They'll come back the next season with a different SSN and we don't do anything about it because it's not our responsibility...and we'd not have any seasonal workers if we did enforce it. Plus if we do enforce it, it adds a bunch of additional liability to us that we don't want/need.

So they do pay taxes through us via automatic deduction. Of course it's always the bare minimum but it is what it is.

Both myself and my wife have both cashed checks and had our SSNs used before with a Juan Martinez or some other hispanic name. It's annoying.
 
if you are an undocumented/ migrant you dont pay taxes, if you are trying to stay here and not make waves you get a tax ID number not a social, green card holders can take over 10 years to get approved so they are paying taxes for years. the farm workers are good people its their kids that are trouble makers
The farm workers do pay taxes with us. You can't get around it without being paid under the table, and we're far too big to do anything like that, plus we have yearly financial audits including payroll.
 
actually they are just catching up to the stimulus and bail outs that everybody that is a citizen got. I got a friend that is a citezen of italy, he married a woman here and has a 2 yo boy, he works and she does not so they filed taxes under his tax id as he is head of household, he did not recieve unemployment or the 600 a week stimulus, and his wife and kids got nothing because there are filed under his tax id so the whole family got fucked
It doesn't seem to me that they got fucked bro. Correct me if I'm wrong but they filed under his "tax id" which I take as not a SS number and they didn't get money that was undeserving of themselves. It looks like they are here illegally and things went accordingly. Correct?

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It doesn't seem to me that they got fucked bro. Correct me if I'm wrong but they filed under his "tax id" which I take as not a SS number and they didn't get money that was undeserving of themselves. It looks like they are here illegally and things went accordingly. Correct?

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I'm just merely curious and trying to make sense of your post that's all.

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It doesn't seem to me that they got fucked bro. Correct me if I'm wrong but they filed under his "tax id" which I take as not a SS number and they didn't get money that was undeserving of themselves. It looks like they are here illegally and things went accordingly. Correct?

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they are legal, he is a citizen of italy working here and affected by the same bullshit as everyone else, but his wife and child are americans just saying lots of folks were left out during the stimulus it wasnt a universal thing and not all immigrants here are illegal
 
That last statement I'm not sure who that is directed to and what is your point?

5th largest economy with a budget deficit of 50 billion and they can't print money.

Before this flu issue, they spent just about any and all the revenue they projected for this year.

California politicians are drunk on tax and spend.

Yes, California has a lot of oil but regulations have stopped any meaningful amount of production.

From what I have read, California is very dependent on oil imports to keep up with demand.
20-21 5.6 billion surplus
 
"California expects revenues to decline by $32 billion in 2021 alone"

The way Gavin spends money and with another 15% haircut in revenue forecasted I have no idea how they have a surplus next year.
 
"California expects revenues to decline by $32 billion in 2021 alone"

The way Gavin spends money and with another 15% haircut in revenue forecasted I have no idea how they have a surplus next year.
Ca continues to stay in the black, special programs ran out of money my town has gotten behind and we almost had to cut our police department but the state is still collecting our taxes
 
I don’t know about California’s illegals and how they work but in my state most pay some taxes . They pay other Mexicans that they know to be able to use their social . They than claim the max number of dependents even if they are single . The end of the year the person who’s social it is will file taxes and keep the money if there is any coming back . The legal citizen will charge a fee for letting Jose use their number and also weekly or monthly fees .
I'm in California in the carpenter union.
I have been on a job where the company actually sent a guy a letter to the job.
It was a concern that another union member who was hired had the same social security card number. They guy was very confused and acted like he knew nothing.
At the time the foreman made a remark that all drywall donkeys use the same card number.
Non of the workers said anything but I could tell they wanted to kick his ass when he left the safety meeting.

Typically most of the drywall guys are Hispanic and know little English and the other workers are framers and sometimes do drywall.

A union member who is a journey man make
60.00
With benefits and retirement.

After that California tax hand gets to the check it's like only making 40.00 unless you claim a high amount.
And uncle San does not give back much when you are in this bracket.
 
Even if an illegal immigrant does not have the right to receive an SSN, he is obliged to pay taxes in the United States, since there is a law in this country according to which persons residing in the United States, regardless of whether they are legal or not, must pay taxes on their income.
 
Where I live and I know this for fact bc I talk with agencies dealing with this still

Illegals get Welfare, free housing aka section 8. Many of them have cash jobs as landscapers or prep cooks etc.

Where I live it's a massive issue. We literally have tens of thousands of illegal aliens

This shit pisses me off. I went to Wendys to get a burger and gave the girl a $5 dollar bill. She looked at me with big eyes, grabbed a handful of pennies, dimes and quarters and put in in my hand.

Now I speak Spanish so I told her in Spanish to go get hr boss. The boss came back and I bitched them out about hiring her and others.

My orders are always wrong. Always wrong. Service is awful and everything is fucked up.

So I don't support these companies anymore

Meanwhile, US citizens are begging for money. They shut down the homeless shelters for US citizens where I live and soup kitchens, but the illegal aliens and "refugees" all have free housing. They also get free YMCA memberships. I was there just this week and I personally witnessed some Middle Eastern "refugees" being given free memberships.

Does this piss you off? It does for me.
 
I always hear the same shit- that they don't qualify for welfare and benefits. However after having lived in various states, I've come to find out that while these rules actually exist, employees and social workers are strictly prohibited from inquiring about a person's immigration status when accepting applications for welfare, housing, etc, thus the rule exists on paper only. Furthermore, under biden, merrick garland has green lighted the number of approvals for asylum from 22% to 37% and climbing. He also made it possible for any illegal to claim sexual assault/abuse with no proof and no statute of limitations and to be shielded from deportation. And last but not least was Mayorkiss bragging last week about turning the US in toca "sanctuary country." This was all done on purpose.
 
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