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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler7 View Post
    Ca has the 5th largest economy in the world, largest agricultural state in US almost as much oil as alaska and a major producer of seafood 3 major ports, major test bases, you got missle testing at point mugu bombing ranges off shore like san nicolas island new aircraft system testing at edwards airbase nasa projects at mojove skunkworks at palmdale space x in elsegundo space x launch from vandenburg AB nasa electrical at moffett field, JPL propulsion in pasadena. raytheon at el segundo, L3 at carslbad san diego and coronado northrop grummen in van nuys and hawthorn, sunstrand turbines in san diego PGE turbines in oxnard GE turbines I think still has a small shop in ontario ATAC at point mugu, they shuttle engineers from LAX and point mugu to china lake daily and to tonapah AB and san nic island. this is all off the top of my head, dont let the media fill your head with garbage.
    That last statement I'm not sure who that is directed to and what is your point?

    5th largest economy with a budget deficit of 50 billion and they can't print money.

    Before this flu issue, they spent just about any and all the revenue they projected for this year.

    California politicians are drunk on tax and spend.

    Yes, California has a lot of oil but regulations have stopped any meaningful amount of production.

    From what I have read, California is very dependent on oil imports to keep up with demand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip Foursome View Post
    I am not up to speed on how illegal aliens are paid above the table although I do know it happens.

    Somehow they get a social security number and do pay taxes although this is more the exception and not the normal. They mostly don't pay taxes.

    My bitch is why do this for people who break the law and leave people of the state in the dust.

    These prick politicians go out of their way to lick the asshole of illegals and tax the shit out of everyone else.
    Yeah they steal SSNs and use those for employment purposes and to cash checks. It's very prevalent where I work where most of the workers are illegal immigrants. They'll come back the next season with a different SSN and we don't do anything about it because it's not our responsibility...and we'd not have any seasonal workers if we did enforce it. Plus if we do enforce it, it adds a bunch of additional liability to us that we don't want/need.

    So they do pay taxes through us via automatic deduction. Of course it's always the bare minimum but it is what it is.

    Both myself and my wife have both cashed checks and had our SSNs used before with a Juan Martinez or some other hispanic name. It's annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler7 View Post
    if you are an undocumented/ migrant you dont pay taxes, if you are trying to stay here and not make waves you get a tax ID number not a social, green card holders can take over 10 years to get approved so they are paying taxes for years. the farm workers are good people its their kids that are trouble makers
    The farm workers do pay taxes with us. You can't get around it without being paid under the table, and we're far too big to do anything like that, plus we have yearly financial audits including payroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler7 View Post
    actually they are just catching up to the stimulus and bail outs that everybody that is a citizen got. I got a friend that is a citezen of italy, he married a woman here and has a 2 yo boy, he works and she does not so they filed taxes under his tax id as he is head of household, he did not recieve unemployment or the 600 a week stimulus, and his wife and kids got nothing because there are filed under his tax id so the whole family got fucked
    It doesn't seem to me that they got fucked bro. Correct me if I'm wrong but they filed under his "tax id" which I take as not a SS number and they didn't get money that was undeserving of themselves. It looks like they are here illegally and things went accordingly. Correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hospitalhuge View Post
    It doesn't seem to me that they got fucked bro. Correct me if I'm wrong but they filed under his "tax id" which I take as not a SS number and they didn't get money that was undeserving of themselves. It looks like they are here illegally and things went accordingly. Correct?

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    I'm just merely curious and trying to make sense of your post that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hospitalhuge View Post
    It doesn't seem to me that they got fucked bro. Correct me if I'm wrong but they filed under his "tax id" which I take as not a SS number and they didn't get money that was undeserving of themselves. It looks like they are here illegally and things went accordingly. Correct?

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    they are legal, he is a citizen of italy working here and affected by the same bullshit as everyone else, but his wife and child are americans just saying lots of folks were left out during the stimulus it wasnt a universal thing and not all immigrants here are illegal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip Foursome View Post
    That last statement I'm not sure who that is directed to and what is your point?

    5th largest economy with a budget deficit of 50 billion and they can't print money.

    Before this flu issue, they spent just about any and all the revenue they projected for this year.

    California politicians are drunk on tax and spend.

    Yes, California has a lot of oil but regulations have stopped any meaningful amount of production.

    From what I have read, California is very dependent on oil imports to keep up with demand.
    20-21 5.6 billion surplus

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    "California expects revenues to decline by $32 billion in 2021 alone"

    The way Gavin spends money and with another 15% haircut in revenue forecasted I have no idea how they have a surplus next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip Foursome View Post
    "California expects revenues to decline by $32 billion in 2021 alone"

    The way Gavin spends money and with another 15% haircut in revenue forecasted I have no idea how they have a surplus next year.
    Ca continues to stay in the black, special programs ran out of money my town has gotten behind and we almost had to cut our police department but the state is still collecting our taxes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip Foursome View Post
    TIN=Taxpayer Identification Number
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    Quote Originally Posted by frank zazz View Post
    I don’t know about California’s illegals and how they work but in my state most pay some taxes . They pay other Mexicans that they know to be able to use their social . They than claim the max number of dependents even if they are single . The end of the year the person who’s social it is will file taxes and keep the money if there is any coming back . The legal citizen will charge a fee for letting Jose use their number and also weekly or monthly fees .
    I'm in California in the carpenter union.
    I have been on a job where the company actually sent a guy a letter to the job.
    It was a concern that another union member who was hired had the same social security card number. They guy was very confused and acted like he knew nothing.
    At the time the foreman made a remark that all drywall donkeys use the same card number.
    Non of the workers said anything but I could tell they wanted to kick his ass when he left the safety meeting.

    Typically most of the drywall guys are Hispanic and know little English and the other workers are framers and sometimes do drywall.

    A union member who is a journey man make
    60.00
    With benefits and retirement.

    After that California tax hand gets to the check it's like only making 40.00 unless you claim a high amount.
    And uncle San does not give back much when you are in this bracket.

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