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    The voice from the West....a man of previous experience who has lived on the edge. The good ole days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skip Foursome View Post
    Sounds like you really don't want to quit but looks to me you have to.

    Garlic Chicken worded it best and I can't top that.

    At least you see the problem and you can do something about it.

    Grow old, be with your family and enjoy life.

    This shit is not worth it when you get to the point where you are.

    Time to go a different direction with your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldog View Post
    The voice from the West....a man of previous experience who has lived on the edge. The good ole days.
    The man the myth the legend!

    Hope all is well with you!

    Haven't seen you around much, what's new?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88HerculesGenes88 View Post
    I am prescribed Adderall, have been forever, try to take smaller doses, don't use as much caffeine, on days you can afford to be sluggish don't take it, give your body breaks, this shit is Amphetamines, this shit is like using NOS on a car. Eat a lot of regular oatmeal for cholesterol! Drink a lot of water, do some yoga like sessions where you learn to lower your heart rate and blood pressure through breathing and calming your mind.
    Adderall at small doses doesnít really affect my blood pressure. Tea and coffee does. But I couldnít figure out the root cause yet. One day I have normal BP during the day and elevated at evenings for no reason. Anyways will be seeing cardiologist soon and will fix it. Tren almost gone from my blood. BP is almost the same. My blood is not really thick. So not sure whatís going on

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddoger View Post
    I never went above 4iu, usually 2-3IU. But I do it daily. I'm on low doses of gear never went high. Only primo I went high because it's super mild.
    So according to the doctors it's blood pressure. I also have thick blood which raises BP as well. Never was able to donate. I will have to start. Btw, how circumin helps ?


    That's my point, all those people who were giving tips and advices have enlarged heart but never did ultra sound


    Have you ever done echo ? Looking at your profile photo I can tell you have enlarged heart as many other lifter.

    I have an echocardiogram done annually and I have never had results show heart enlargement. If you could tell by someone's photo they have heart enlargement then alot of specialists would be losing money, lol. I don't even train intensely or often enough to have heart enlargement and I keep my cycles at 500mg of total gear. Plus I never go above 190lb bodyweight. Alot of that is also genetic.

    I know you're frustrated bro, but you're just gonna have to come to terms with using less gear and probably avoiding tren if you want to minimize any further heart enlargement. There's no way around it.
    Last edited by ArgonCoagulator; 09-17-2020 at 02:15 PM.

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    Grandpa...I never left like some people I know. I'm always around.....usually in the GC sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip Foursome View Post
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    garlic chicken said it great. but if your young it wont hit you until your 40, 50s

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    HGH seems like a likely culprit


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    Quote Originally Posted by RussianMuscle View Post
    HGH seems like a likely culprit


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    Plus the gear. It's a recipe for cardiomyopathy.

    I love the people that don't take LVH seriously. Sure it happens in athletes. But most lay off the extreme workouts and PEDs and stay healthy once they reach a certain age. Left untreated and exaggerated with PEDs, it catches up one day. But those who don't care will come to know one day.

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    I will add to this, Adderall is one of your main problems. You weren't prescribed it, obviously, so stop being a dumbass.

    If you mix Adderall daily with an Antihistamine, you're dead. They interact like a bastard.

    And you said you take it for school? Shit if you're that young stop being a pussy and man up. You don't need Adderall for school.

    Not being a prick, but come on man, you're smarter than this, I hope. You can't fix an enlarged heart, there is ZERO was to decrease it. The only thing you can do is stop all the nonsense and recover your life. You will probably be fine if you quit now.

    I speak from experience, the heart is not a liver and it doesn't recover like a liver. It's the most serious organ you possess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddoger View Post
    I found a few reasons for high blood pressure. Itís already better. Iím measuring it 5-10 times a day.

    How was your echo ? Did you notice effect of HGH?

    I bet most of people who commented here donít know a lot about enlarged heart and donít really do echos...
    I have no idea whether I have an enlarged heart and have not done an echo.

    What reasons did you find for the blood pressure issue, and what did you change to lower it?

    What made you do the echo in the first place (just curious)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddoger View Post
    I do heart ultrasound every year. This year my heart enlarged more. Left ventricle is enlarged. The numbers are still ok. The wall between ventricles enlarged 0.9mm more reaching 14.9mm.
    How to stop this process ? I'm on 250mg of T and 2-3iu of HGH and during blasts I can do:
    1. Primobalan 800-1000mg a week. I assume it won't affect heart that much.
    2. 100mg of tren + 250-300mg of Mast a week.

    100mg of tren is way less than most of people do. It still provides great results. It also causes side effects, like sweating, insomnia, and blood pressure. I'm going to drop tren completely or keep it below 80mg/week on rare blast. What else I can do ? Thanks
    Ah, I see you do this every year? Is an ultrasound and an echo the same thing or different? Cost?

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    good advice roy keane
    Last edited by Slingblade123; 09-25-2020 at 04:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSOReaper View Post
    I will add to this, Adderall is one of your main problems. You weren't prescribed it, obviously, so stop being a dumbass.

    If you mix Adderall daily with an Antihistamine, you're dead. They interact like a bastard.

    And you said you take it for school? Shit if you're that young stop being a pussy and man up. You don't need Adderall for school.

    Not being a prick, but come on man, you're smarter than this, I hope. You can't fix an enlarged heart, there is ZERO was to decrease it. The only thing you can do is stop all the nonsense and recover your life. You will probably be fine if you quit now.

    I speak from experience, the heart is not a liver and it doesn't recover like a liver. It's the most serious organ you possess.
    LOL, you are the pussy. Stop talking like that. I have to tell you a secret, adderall won't make you alpha from a pussy. I'm prescribed adderall by a doctor. Also, I spent a few days without adderall and BP didn't change. I'm taking a very low dose.

    For every smart ass on this forum, I had a slightly increased blood pressure since I was 20. Who knows why, but it is what it is. With age it became too high and now needs treatment.

    Thanks for everyone's useless input except of Garlic Chicken and may be a couple more ppl who truly know their shit. I went to cardiologist and was prescribed lisinopril. My BP is ideal now. Also, lisinopril shown to reverse enlarged heart. In my case I caught the issue early enough, so there is no risk for heart attack if the heart size will stay at least the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSOReaper View Post
    I will add to this, Adderall is one of your main problems. You weren't prescribed it, obviously, so stop being a dumbass.

    If you mix Adderall daily with an Antihistamine, you're dead. They interact like a bastard.

    And you said you take it for school? Shit if you're that young stop being a pussy and man up. You don't need Adderall for school.

    Not being a prick, but come on man, you're smarter than this, I hope. You can't fix an enlarged heart, there is ZERO was to decrease it. The only thing you can do is stop all the nonsense and recover your life. You will probably be fine if you quit now.

    I speak from experience, the heart is not a liver and it doesn't recover like a liver. It's the most serious organ you possess.
    ^ Hes absolutely right. Adderal affects your heart adversely via its interactions with blood pressure and heart rate over longer periods of time it damages the cardiovascular system.

    Didnít even think of that but you gotta get off thst shit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by maddoger View Post
    I do heart ultrasound every year. This year my heart enlarged more. Left ventricle is enlarged. The numbers are still ok. The wall between ventricles enlarged 0.9mm more reaching 14.9mm.
    How to stop this process ? I'm on 250mg of T and 2-3iu of HGH and during blasts I can do:
    1. Primobalan 800-1000mg a week. I assume it won't affect heart that much.
    2. 100mg of tren + 250-300mg of Mast a week.

    100mg of tren is way less than most of people do. It still provides great results. It also causes side effects, like sweating, insomnia, and blood pressure. I'm going to drop tren completely or keep it below 80mg/week on rare blast. What else I can do ? Thanks
    Its time to stop brother. This is the nature of the beast we play with. Steroids are not a freebie we will all pay for their use in some way. Consider yourself one of the lucky ones. You found out before its too late. Be safe my man!

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    I'm the pussy? Who's taking Adderall because they can't keep their little school grades up? Does mommy pack your lunch and include a banana to shove up your ass at recess?

    All bullshit aside, keep taking Adderall. Be sure your life insurance is intact in case you have a family. Some people like you are just too stupid to accept the truth. Lowering your blood pressure with a medicine will not help heart disease. And also, you're dreaming if you think you can shrink an enlarged heart. Christ, stop being an idiot.

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