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    Praetorian are scammers

    Well after my testing and the current testing from Lt dan Iím still being denied a refund. If thatís not scamming Iím not sure what is.

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    I was so close to choosing them a couple months ago; glad I didnít.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obscured78 View Post
    I was so close to choosing them a couple months ago; glad I didnít.
    You know I was strongly considering leaving asf after all of this and then the psl/z situation. I still am but then I think weíll maybe I can still help people here out so who knows man Iím just not sure if itís worth the hassle and headache

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jswole220 View Post
    Well after my testing and the current testing from Lt dan Iím still being denied a refund. If thatís not scamming Iím not sure what is.
    You wonít take replacement gear? Lmao!

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    Just gonna be an oops our bad like psl?

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    Practorean lab and there operation is they exact definition of selective scammers and itís been going on a long long time I believe! The only difference between now and back in the day is that customers have some options to test things back in the day there was none of this , no one even got bloodwork or was very few far in between had to wait months at times for packs . Things have changed some for better maybe some not so much . This wasnít a case of mislabeling or underdosed or am isolated incident ! It looks to me as though specially brewed this blend of three different esters from short to very long with compounds that wouldnít have obvious sides at small doses but enough for feels especially someone new ! This seems to be there target audience! And then seems like they had another properly dosed batch to send out to vets or anyone they knew would be getting bloodwork or leaving a review! Most time Vets,Mods, and senior members .

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    Pretty packaging, ten years history, compound p h a r m a , unique doses like each batch had been tested, good bloodwork and reviews ( when they knew it was going to be tested or reviewed) , lots of sales , very active buddy buddy rep , This operation is no fly by night dummy just completely scamming from beginning. No this is much worse they have been doing this for a long time I would bet and have obviously gotten very good at it . I want to see what Admins and other authority are going to say and or do about situation??

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    On other boards I'm on, when the hplc testing first began most labs failed miserably. In some cases it was such deliberate scamming that the lab was kicked out. Anyways, to make a long story short, after about a year or so of members doing the random testing we weeded out all the bad labs, and all of a sudden the hplc testing was coming back great the majority of the time.

    The moral of the story is that this could all work out in the end. Don't give up on ASF. Just keep up with the random testing by MEMBERS. Yes it's nice seeing labs perform their own testing of products as well, but occasionally members need to keep the labs accountable. It will pay off for everyone
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    your buying an illegal substance off the internet from a drug dealer. you are assuming all the risk here by sending money, the dealer is taking an even greater risk they could get busted and spend time in jail. if the drug dealer offers to resend it then thats is the absolute best you can hope for but in reality they arent obligated to do shit.
    just like when a street dealer sells heroin and give one pure dose and that addict ODs then all addicts rush to that one dealer and buy all their underdosed heroin, you gotta learn to watch the forum and listen to the members here they are your weather vane

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    Agree!!!!

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    That seems to be the norm- Why anyone would that is beyond me.
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    You wonít take replacement gear? Lmao!

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    well you haven't been banned so that's good. I wouldn't blame you if you did with all the shit you took but you also know there are good guys here and you don't want noobs to get the shaft although noobs almost always learn by personal experience.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jswole220 View Post
    You know I was strongly considering leaving asf after all of this and then the psl/z situation. I still am but then I think weíll maybe I can still help people here out so who knows man Iím just not sure if itís worth the hassle and headache

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifter6973 View Post
    That seems to be the norm- Why anyone would that is beyond me.
    Yes because the replacement may be just as bad or worse than the originals.
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