Jswole220
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Well unfortunately this is certainly not what I expected when I purchased this gear in the least bit. Some of you may remember I created a thread title something like “why don’t we hold sources accountable” in that thread I expressed my concern for the lack of testing done on asf. The number one response I got was lead by example and the people who said that were absolutely right. I haven’t shared any testing on asf to date mainly because I haven’t tested asf sources.
I reached out to the Praetorian rep Custom and told him I wanted to send samples off on praetorian gear. I explained to him I wanted to pick praetorian because I was confident the results would come back great and people are aware that him and I were friends. I told him I hope I didn’t speak too soon because I was unsure if I was going to be able to afford it. I told him I was waiting on a bonus from work and hopefully it was around what I received the year prior. He said he was all for it and he thought it was great. I felt like he was being somewhat short with me after that so I asked him again before I went to bed hey man are you sure your fine with this. He again told me yes and he would reach out to praetorian to see how I could be reimbursed. I messaged him back and told him I was going to do it because of my bonus I had a few k to play around with. That’s when things took a turn for the worse. I told him i was using jano because not only was lab4tox more expensive by roughly $50 per sample but they only take bank wire transfers. He told me I’m just going to create a huge headache for him and didn’t want me to use jano because he claimed now jano was not reliable. I told him jano made one mistake only one 7 or 8 years ago and has since proven himself to be more than reliable. Jano has been under the microscope by this whole community probably more so than any other person apart of it. He has had his samples cross checked countless times with lab4tox as well as weights and measures when they were around. It basically just turned into an argument and I chose to just cut ties with him. I won’t go into detail but he hasn’t been exactly the most loyal friend to me and I can say 100% I was absolutely a loyal friend to him. I’m not here to bash Custom or praetorian for that matter. I like custom and it does upset me that we’re not friends anymore but I had to draw the line. If anyone from the lab tries to discredit my samples in anyway I still have everything I tested but even better I still have 4 sealed vials of what’s labeled tren hex that I will gladly send to any mod to be tested. I will also pay for one customers sample if they have something they already purchased that is the same as one of the nine items I had tested and they did not contact anyone before hand and mentioned they were ordering. I say that because I have seen good bloods posted on this lab in the past. Also worth mentioning I did not mention this order at all to custom and did not plan on it until I received it. A couple days after I ordered custom contacted me and asked me if I ordered and asked why I didn’t let him know before I did. I didn’t tell him this at the time but obviously I wanted to stay Anonymous. I have no clue how he knows I ordered but he did find out. They do say they require a handle and forum for orders which I included but I have recommended this lab to two of my friends in the past and neither are members on any forums so maybe that’s a new rule ? Anyway all I would like for one is to bring awareness as to what type of product praetorian is producing. I would like to say maybe it was a bad batch or human error but with 9 results and not one coming back as it should I think that’s not the case and they know what they are doing. I would like my bitcoin back for the order considering I did not get what I paid for at all. When people come here asking about labs that are not on asf everyone always says don’t come back and complain if you get scammed for not using a source on asf. Well what happens when it actually is a source on asf selling the subpar gear? Hopefully they will be held accountable but at the very least at least I can bring awareness and I truly hope they own up to it and turn things around but I guess only time will tell how they choose to handle this.
I reached out to the Praetorian rep Custom and told him I wanted to send samples off on praetorian gear. I explained to him I wanted to pick praetorian because I was confident the results would come back great and people are aware that him and I were friends. I told him I hope I didn’t speak too soon because I was unsure if I was going to be able to afford it. I told him I was waiting on a bonus from work and hopefully it was around what I received the year prior. He said he was all for it and he thought it was great. I felt like he was being somewhat short with me after that so I asked him again before I went to bed hey man are you sure your fine with this. He again told me yes and he would reach out to praetorian to see how I could be reimbursed. I messaged him back and told him I was going to do it because of my bonus I had a few k to play around with. That’s when things took a turn for the worse. I told him i was using jano because not only was lab4tox more expensive by roughly $50 per sample but they only take bank wire transfers. He told me I’m just going to create a huge headache for him and didn’t want me to use jano because he claimed now jano was not reliable. I told him jano made one mistake only one 7 or 8 years ago and has since proven himself to be more than reliable. Jano has been under the microscope by this whole community probably more so than any other person apart of it. He has had his samples cross checked countless times with lab4tox as well as weights and measures when they were around. It basically just turned into an argument and I chose to just cut ties with him. I won’t go into detail but he hasn’t been exactly the most loyal friend to me and I can say 100% I was absolutely a loyal friend to him. I’m not here to bash Custom or praetorian for that matter. I like custom and it does upset me that we’re not friends anymore but I had to draw the line. If anyone from the lab tries to discredit my samples in anyway I still have everything I tested but even better I still have 4 sealed vials of what’s labeled tren hex that I will gladly send to any mod to be tested. I will also pay for one customers sample if they have something they already purchased that is the same as one of the nine items I had tested and they did not contact anyone before hand and mentioned they were ordering. I say that because I have seen good bloods posted on this lab in the past. Also worth mentioning I did not mention this order at all to custom and did not plan on it until I received it. A couple days after I ordered custom contacted me and asked me if I ordered and asked why I didn’t let him know before I did. I didn’t tell him this at the time but obviously I wanted to stay Anonymous. I have no clue how he knows I ordered but he did find out. They do say they require a handle and forum for orders which I included but I have recommended this lab to two of my friends in the past and neither are members on any forums so maybe that’s a new rule ? Anyway all I would like for one is to bring awareness as to what type of product praetorian is producing. I would like to say maybe it was a bad batch or human error but with 9 results and not one coming back as it should I think that’s not the case and they know what they are doing. I would like my bitcoin back for the order considering I did not get what I paid for at all. When people come here asking about labs that are not on asf everyone always says don’t come back and complain if you get scammed for not using a source on asf. Well what happens when it actually is a source on asf selling the subpar gear? Hopefully they will be held accountable but at the very least at least I can bring awareness and I truly hope they own up to it and turn things around but I guess only time will tell how they choose to handle this.
