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i do not pull back on plunger,, never will ,, should you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beastmode1985 View Post
    umm you cannot go into a vein with a 25 or 23 g needle ,, you can go through it,, and if you did somehow manage to be just in a vein the right way at the right angle , as soon as you pressed down on the plunger , it would blow out of the vein?

    so again , I can show medical papers saying asperating isn't needed ,, so I can in a way back up my claim,,, the only thing I see you backing up is bad rep points? so if you want to be apart of the convo , plz back it up with facts
    It's easy enough to look up stuff supporting either side of a case. But since you keep asking....here. Here's a report of someone injecting aas iv (again, rare, but shit happens). "The pathophysiology, diagnosis and treatment of this rare but potentially life-threatening complication of intravenous oil injection are discussed."

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3205107/

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    Quote Originally Posted by beastmode1985 View Post
    umm you cannot go into a vein with a 25 or 23 g needle ,, you can go through it,, and if you did somehow manage to be just in a vein the right way at the right angle , as soon as you pressed down on the plunger , it would blow out of the vein?

    so again , I can show medical papers saying asperating isn't needed ,, so I can in a way back up my claim,,, the only thing I see you backing up is bad rep points? so if you want to be apart of the convo , plz back it up with facts
    I've aspirated blood multiple times with a 25g. And how do you know anything about "blowing through a vein"? What is your profession? Do you have any experience inserting IVs, giving yourself IV medication, ect...?
    And what's these bad rep points? The fact that I have 9 infractions?? LMFAO.

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    I personally always pull back on the plunger to make sure no blood draws in but to each their own - it gives me a sense of knowing it was a good pin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unit91 View Post
    I've aspirated blood multiple times with a 25g. And how do you know anything about "blowing through a vein"? What is your profession? Do you have any experience inserting IVs, giving yourself IV medication, ect...?
    And what's these bad rep points? The fact that I have 9 infractions?? LMFAO.

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    both sisters are RNA's .. so yeaaa…. and I think that case you found was a case of tren cough and the dude geeked out,, like really? lol so lets say it went right into the vein, to the heart ,, yea? well he didn't die did he? just tweeked out? that's pretty much what I read,,, and he shot in his butt,, who is to say he even knows the proper spots to inject? soo many ???? on that case,, but to me , seemed like tren cough and he tweeked… so imn gonna say , I want a case where someone got hurt,, not tweeked out and went to the hospital to get observed .. I still say , its not needed

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    but it seems like its still at a draw,,, eaither way is ok , providing you are in the correct area for injection and deep enough ,, id say no need at all to pull back,, because weather or not you are in a vein or not,, if u nick it going in,, and ur doing tren,,, u will get tren cough ,,pulling back or not,,unless the needle is %100 dry going into skin....


    on post above...not to say the dude was doing tren,, or not,, he said test and eq,, but whos to say he isn't lying,,, ya know , like mike o tren lol

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    I haven't since my first cycle. I aspirated in the glute and I guess itt created some negative pressure in the muscle or something because once I finished the injection and pulled the needle out, a little stream of blood squirted out. Had it happen a couple more times. Haven't aspirated since and never had another squirter.

    I can tell you from years of drug abuse that it's harder to wind up flush in a vein than one would think. Going in at a perpendicular angle and an inch or more deep? No chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel618 View Post
    I can tell you from years of drug abuse that it's harder to wind up flush in a vein than one would think. Going in at a perpendicular angle and an inch or more deep? No chance.
    yet some claim its possible,, im with ya %100000 bro,,

    I still say its old school bro science to pull back , due to old timers doing it (never chaging with the times and advancements) ,, and it just kina stayed ..

    im still yet to see an article where a man or woman injected themselves in the correct area , with the proper depth ,, and hit a vein , and shot the drug iv instead of im ,,

    I use to see "mr brownstone" back in my "grey" years ,, and I can tell you for sure .. that if you were to go in a vein and u did somehow thread into a vein (impossible) and you started pushing on the plunger,,
    you would taste and feel the drug almost within 4 sec of starting to push the plunger,, and you would know you are in a vein,, (imagine tren cough for like 20 min instead of 5?)

    but yea ,, im still with the ,, " aint gonna happen " crowd

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    I never have and I have done a ton of injections without any issues. I couldn't even give a ball park number to how many times i have injected. When you aspirate, you can still move the needle and then hit a vein after you aspirated so i do not understand the reasoning with aspiration when performing a self injection. Also, if you aspirate you can move the needle which will create scar tissue/pip if you are not careful. Not a fan of aspiration at all. I am also lean so i can see a lot of of my veins and obviously not injecting directly into them.
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    i know from exp. that u r 100% right diesel. shit its hard as hell to hit a big vein w/ a u-100 insulin syringe, much less these monstrosities we use! virtually impossible when u r going in straight up and down, not parallel as veins run. not proud to know this if u know what i mean! im sure its poss. to nick a vein,because ive done it. but im not sure if it was u or someone else, but only someone who has exp. knows about "that taste"

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    Never have maybe because I’m scared to see blood but I’m a shoulder and glute guy

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    I only aspirate when pinning quads.


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    No. You pull back on the plunger when injecting into a vein, to make sure you are actually in the vein.

    You can aspirate if you want to with an IM shot, but the chances of you injecting straight into a vein is pretty much 0.

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    Nope.... Im no pro by any means, but I've pinned my fair share and never once aspirated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beastmode1985 View Post
    both sisters are RNA's .. so yeaaa….
    My mom's a mortgage specialist so hmu for mortgage advice

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    I haven't aspirated since my first few go 'rounds..that was prob more than 10 yrs ago when I first bought trenbolone pellets and brewed

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