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I think a heck of a lot more needs to happen way before any rapture...
Literally nothing further needs to happen when taking a pre trib position. Now if you are post trib that's a different story.I think a heck of a lot more needs to happen way before any rapture...
Maybe you have a better timeline you could divulge that may show us the bible timeline with our current time line?
I watched the video too, it was a bit long and I for one dont subscribe to dates per say. But what do I know?
It can be confusing especially if you are newer to eschatology (study of end things) Also most Christians have a particular world view and that world view drives their interpretation. For example if you think the Bible is mostly allegory (not literal) you tend to interpret things with that perception. Or if you think the sections written to the Jews apply to us today you would then view the scriptures differently from someone who makes a distinction between the Church and Israel. Confusing directives to Israel with the Church is the biggest problem in Scriptural interpretation in my opinion because one group is given instruction to do faith works for salvation and the other is told we are saved by grace alone (two very different things). This also spills over into how you interpret eschatology. Anyway I don't want to present all the different views because there are too many and it will likely cause further confusion so I will just stick with the more common views.This entire topic confuses me greatly. I see so many various views on this, I dont even have an opinion of my own to form
What is the difference between Rapture and Tribulation precisely.
Isn't there a quote that says a precise number, something like 100,000 people?
Any clarifications would be appreciated.
I watched the video too, it was a bit long and I for one dont subscribe to dates per say. But what do I know?
This entire topic confuses me greatly. I see so many various views on this, I dont even have an opinion of my own to form
What is the difference between Rapture and Tribulation precisely.
Isn't there a quote that says a precise number, something like 100,000 people?
Any clarifications would be appreciated.
I watched the video too, it was a bit long and I for one dont subscribe to dates per say. But what do I know?
Bottom line is we need to seek God and seek relationship with Him, we need to love others and help them while we still can. Nothing is more important than loving God and loving others. Have you spent time talking to God and listening to Him today?
Confusing directives to Israel with the Church is the biggest problem in Scriptural interpretation in my opinion because one group is given instruction to do faith works for salvation and the other is told we are saved by grace alone (two very different things).It can be confusing especially if you are newer to eschatology (study of end things) Also most Christians have a particular world view and that world view drives their interpretation. For example if you think the Bible is mostly allegory (not literal) you tend to interpret things with that perception. Or if you think the sections written to the Jews apply to us today you would then view the scriptures differently from someone who makes a distinction between the Church and Israel. Confusing directives to Israel with the Church is the biggest problem in Scriptural interpretation in my opinion because one group is given instruction to do faith works for salvation and the other is told we are saved by grace alone (two very different things). This also spills over into how you interpret eschatology. Anyway I don't want to present all the different views because there are too many and it will likely cause further confusion so I will just stick with the more common views.
The rapture or as I like to call it, The Departure is when Christ comes and removes all believers in Jesus Christ from the earth.
The Tribulation is a 7 year period of intense suffering. The first 3-4 years are not as bad but the last days or years of the tribulation are horrific. Some believe the Tribulation will actually be shortened to a little less than 7 years. But for this discussion lets say the Tribulation is roughly 7 years in duration.
Some place The Departure before the Tribulation. Some place it in the middle or a bit later (called pre wrath rapture in some circles). and finally some place the rapture at or near the end of The Tribulation.
A lot of Christians like to say we don't know the day or the hour but we will know the season. Keep in mind even if you believe Christ will return on the feast of Trumpets we still do not literally know which day or hour since the feast is over a several day period. Is it at the beginning of the feast? In the middle? At the end? a few days after the feast? So yes, I agree we don't know the day or hour but I do think the signs were given to us so that we will know the season of His return.
I lean towards a pre trib view but one of my pastor friends thinks its post wrath so I'm exposed to their arguments and see why they believe the way that they do.
Bottom line is we need to seek God and seek relationship with Him, we need to love others and help them while we still can. Nothing is more important than loving God and loving others. Have you spent time talking to God and listening to Him today?
Thats a certain number from each tribe correct?The specific number you are referring to is 144000. That is the number of Jewish people who are kept from harm, and become witnesses for christ. Then multitudes will become believers
Thats a certain number from each tribe correct?
Does anyone believe the usa is a lost tribe of Israel?
Confusing directives to Israel with the Church is the biggest problem in Scriptural interpretation in my opinion because one group is given instruction to do faith works for salvation and the other is told we are saved by grace alone (two very different things).
This is always confusing as is tithing, is one from above from the new testament and the other the old?? That to me would be the deciding facture as some beloeve the laws from the old testement were null n void with the new testament?
Confusing but if u believe, proclaim Jesus as ur lord and savior u are saved as he was crucified, and rose again the 3rd day...
Heavy, thanks for all the posts here. I have been a believer since Nov 7, 2002 and in that time my eyes have been opened to all the goes on around me and fear of death has left me long ago. In fact I look forward to the life to come. One of the revelations of truth in the past year for me is the Flat Earth Theory and it’s changed my faith…its made it even stronger. This new research as recent as about 2015 has gained thousands. One the videos that blew my mind is https://youtu.be/2hnrlyOvUcQ
How does this relate to your thread, the round ball has one motive, disprove the Bible and God. It’s been doing a pretty good job now since about 1953.
I’m just seeing this comment and it baffles me how anyone could believe the earth is flat !! I tried watching the video but it’s an hour long and i couldn’t take more than about five minutes of the ignorance being spoken !!
Are you trying to say you believe this and that somehow the earth being round is disproving God and the Bible ?
I’m saying condemnation prior investigation isn’t an argument. The earth is flat, there is no prof that the earth moves. No curvature. All stars today will be in the same spot same time next year and have been since the beginning of recording. If we are moving through space at half a million miles per hour how can these stars always be in the same spot?
https://youtu.be/fn5_XO6p5DU