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    Quote Originally Posted by The Admin View Post
    I don't want to offend anyone but I don't understand how anyone of intelligence follows a religion.
    The bible is nothing more than the first novel ever written. Think about some of the following:
    Christ was so popular but nothing of his was ever saved?
    Moses parted an entire sea?
    Jews roamed the dessert for 40 years. What did they eat and drink?
    The earth was created 6000 years ago says the bible but there is proof that the earth is over 10 million year old
    How did Noah's family repopulate the entire planet?
    The bible claims gays will burn in hell but we all know A.Font is going to heaven.
    To much to list. I'm a believer in God and Jesus but someone just fine tuned the story

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    Quote Originally Posted by custom View Post
    The bible is nothing more than the first novel ever written. Think about some of the following:
    Christ was so popular but nothing of his was ever saved?
    Moses parted an entire sea?
    Jews roamed the dessert for 40 years. What did they eat and drink?
    The earth was created 6000 years ago says the bible but there is proof that the earth is over 10 million year old
    How did Noah's family repopulate the entire planet?
    The bible claims gays will burn in hell but we all know A.Font is going to heaven.
    To much to list. I'm a believer in God and Jesus but someone just fine tuned the story
    I believe Jesus Christ existed, he was just like a Martin Luther King. He was killed because the ironic thing is Jesus did not believe in church or religion.

    I believe in science and science tells us that the earth is 4.5 billion years old, not 6,000 years old.

    Homosexuality is prevalent in almost every animal species.

    Religions were created to control people, instill the fear of "god".

    The Christian bible is all metaphorical, not to be taken literally. No different than the story of the boy who cried wolf. Furthermore, the bible has been translated so many times the true meaning of the stories have been lost. One of my majors in college was Philosophy and I studied religions and many other subjects, so I am not talking out of my ass.
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    First i do believe there is something outside of our world which we do not understand. Now to upset some people. Debating religion should not piss people off but it does.

    I have many questions for example...Is there a single god to us?? Maybe?? Could it be some teenage girl playing sims on a computer?? Maybe? I find that more likely than god creating the heavens and earth in 6 days then later to help out Adam and make him a woman out of his rib. Some of the faith you need to believe in the bible are just hard me to have.
    My common sense tells me that there probably was a great flood in history. I imagine a farmer probably built a boat to save his sheep but over thousands of years its slowly changed into Noah saving all of the animals on earth.

    I look at the bible as a way to proceed through life. I have so many issues with the bible being factual. All of the books are written long after everyone in the books lived. As we know any stories handed down get changed over time especially when told verbally. Tell me if I'm wrong but wasn't it Constantine that started most of what Christian's live by today. Christmas, Easter, etc, etc. I dont understand how they could not even get important dates correct. Why did they take so many dates from Norse Paganism?

    I feel like people have used religion for the wrong purpose. The purpose of control money and power over the people. In my younger years I went to church every Sunday with most of what seemed like a bunch of hippocrates that thought they were better than others. I need to find a church that has honest people and can make sense of what is in the bible to me. I do not want a church that says you just have to believe or else!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Admin View Post
    Joe Rogan is fucking hilarious. He is fucking out there on some shit but oddly most of it makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigtoe View Post
    First i do believe there is something outside of our world which we do not understand.
    I also believe in a higher power, but religions were created by humans to control other humans.

    Christians say if you don't believe in Jesus Christ you're going to "hell". So I guess the billions of people who believe in other religion's are all wrong and are going to hell. Okay that makes sense. According to Christians as long as you accept Jesus as your savior you are forgiven of all your sins and you're going to "heaven".

    So if I go murder 10 people and then suddenly accept Jesus as my lord and savior I am now going to heaven?

    Again I am not trying to offend anyone, but how can a person of intelligence believe such nonsense?
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    So to your ‘homosexuality exists in almost every living species’ argument.... I don’t see dogs building rocket ships, airplanes or computers. Maybe we could rise above the “they’re doing it so we should be allowed to do it”...

    on the flip side, I don’t see dogs bitching about incorrect pronouns or making millions of dollars rapping about money, drugs, sluts and throwing gang signs to there homies either.... so maybe were not above that yet either.

    science proves nothing, it only supports hypothesis’. Faith my friends, I like the idea of spending eternity in paradise with my loved ones... so imma keep da faith bro!

    plus, I got nothing to lose and everything to gain. If I’m wrong in my belief in God and Jesus and the Bible then I’m no worse for ware (wear? Not sure which word to use there.... or is it their? Ugh fuck English and all you grammar Nazis)

    but y’all are entitled to your opinion on faith, as am I. That’s the beautiful thing about living in the US, right?

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    Sounds like some of you guys are the “cramming for finals” type. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milford King View Post
    So to your ‘homosexuality exists in almost every living species’ argument.... I don’t see dogs building rocket ships, airplanes or computers. Maybe we could rise above the “they’re doing it so we should be allowed to do it”...

    on the flip side, I don’t see dogs bitching about incorrect pronouns or making millions of dollars rapping about money, drugs, sluts and throwing gang signs to there homies either.... so maybe were not above that yet either.

    science proves nothing, it only supports hypothesis’. Faith my friends, I like the idea of spending eternity in paradise with my loved ones... so imma keep da faith bro!

    plus, I got nothing to lose and everything to gain. If I’m wrong in my belief in God and Jesus and the Bible then I’m no worse for ware (wear? Not sure which word to use there.... or is it their? Ugh fuck English and all you grammar Nazis)

    but y’all are entitled to your opinion on faith, as am I. That’s the beautiful thing about living in the US, right?
    Oh so you don't believe in science, or you only believe in science when it's convenient? Faith is a belief, nothing more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Admin View Post
    I believe Jesus Christ existed, he was just like a Martin Luther King. He was killed because the ironic thing is Jesus did not believe in church or religion.

    I believe in science and science tells us that the earth is 4.5 billion years old, not 6,000 years old.

    Homosexuality is prevalent in almost every animal species.

    Religions were created to control people, instill the fear of "god".

    The Christian bible is all metaphorical, not to be taken literally. No different than the story of the boy who cried wolf. Furthermore, the bible has been translated so many times the true meaning of the stories have been lost. One of my majors in college was Philosophy and I studied religions and many other subjects, so I am not talking out of my ass.
    The gay joke was directed at A.Font and is not written any where in the bible it was meant for a laugh. As far as what a man's or woman's sexual preference is I'm alright with that.

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    The funny thing about homosexuality is that back in Greek Roman days it was socially accepted, it was religions that condemned it. So now we get into the argument is being homosexual a choice or are you born that way? Do you really think people just say hey I think I am going to be attracted to the same sex now? If that is what you think you're ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Admin View Post
    Oh so you don't believe in science, or you only believe in science when it's convenient? Faith is a belief, nothing more.
    Define “Believe” and “science”.

    you basically said any man who chooses to follow Christianity is unintelligent. I was only adding to your claim, that science, proves nothing. It, however, can be used to support hypothesis.

    also, whose “science” do you believe in exactly? Because we know how agendas can change results.

    but I work in R and D. I do “science” daily. I studied astronomy in college as well.

    I cannot “prove” my monotheistic ideaology any more than you can disprove it. But, I wouldn’t say you are ignorant because you can’t see the forest for the tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Admin View Post
    The funny thing about homosexuality is that back in Greek Roman days it was socially accepted, it was religions that condemned it. So now we get into the argument is being homosexual a choice or are you born that way? Do you really think people just say hey I think I am going to be attracted to the same sex now?
    well.... yes, you choose to stick your dick in another guys butthole. It’s literally a choice. It’s not like you are compelled through magnetic attraction and you just fall in a butthole.

    I also don’t care what people choose to do. The Greeks and romans also fucked kids. And there empires exist no more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milford King View Post
    Define “Believe” and “science”.

    you basically said any man who chooses to follow Christianity is unintelligent. I was only adding to your claim, that science, proves nothing. It, however, can be used to support hypothesis.

    also, whose “science” do you believe in exactly? Because we know how agendas can change results.

    but I work in R and D. I do “science” daily. I studied astronomy in college as well.

    I cannot “prove” my monotheistic ideaology any more than you can disprove it. But, I wouldn’t say you are ignorant because you can’t see the forest for the tree.
    Well I guess the basic definition of science is empirical evidence, otherwise it is just belief or theory. Did you go to college?
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    And the pit has come out to play lol

    It’s not my place to judge gays... you played the “ I saw a boy dog hump a boy dog once so nobody should feel weird about boy humans humping each other” card.... and well I had to respond with my own rhetoric on how I don’t care but.... homosexuality is contradictory to evolution so maybe there is a God, and maybe free will and lack of will power are real things.

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