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I’m taking Hcg,hmg, and clomid trying to get my girl pregnant. And since being off test my sex drive is damn near zero. My test levels are in the 120s. When on test I could have sex a few times a day now I don’t even think about it very little if at all. Any pointers on how to up sex drive while off test ?
 
Don’t ever come off enough stay on trt from dr and take hcg etc.


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Frankdoz said:
Don’t ever come off enough stay on trt from dr and take hcg etc.


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Yes I get trt from doc but he recommend I come off trt to help sperm count even more.
 
I got my wife pregnant while on a regular cycle .


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Frankdoz said:
I got my wife pregnant while on a regular cycle .


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Yeah man. But my sperm count was so low on cycle it would’ve been very hard. We have been trying for a year on cycle before I knew my sperm count was low
 
Hcg 500-600 per week helps


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Frankdoz said:
Hcg 500-600 per week helps



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Yes. I just switched my fertility protocol up today. Started

Hcg 1000iu Monday wed fri
Hmg 75iu tues and thurs
Clomid 50mg mon wed fri
 
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beast405 said:
I’m taking Hcg,hmg, and clomid trying to get my girl pregnant. And since being off test my sex drive is damn near zero. My test levels are in the 120s. When on test I could have sex a few times a day now I don’t even think about it very little if at all. Any pointers on how to up sex drive while off test ?
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Hello,

Normally the protocol are for exemple :

HCG 1500 ui's Monday and Thursday

HMG 75 ui's Tuesday Friday and Sunday

If your on cycle recently for exemple Nandrolone, Trenbolone, your need some weeks to see and start to feel the effect.

If your need to use clomid the protocol are :

First week with only HCG followed by only clomid


Week 1-4 HCG 1500 ui's Monday and Thursday

Week 5-8 Clomid 50mg daily


Of course you need to stop all AAS or other like LGD etc...
 
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lundgren said:
Hello,

Normally the protocol are for exemple :

HCG 1500 ui's Monday and Thursday

HMG 75 ui's Tuesday Friday and Sunday

If your on cycle recently for exemple Nandrolone, Trenbolone, your need some weeks to see and start to feel the effect.

If your need to use clomid the protocol are :

First week with only HCG followed by only clomid


Week 1-4 HCG 1500 ui's Monday and Thursday

Week 5-8 Clomid 50mg daily


Of course you need to stop all AAS or other like LGD etc...
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I’m not on aas or anything similar at the moment and haven’t been for weeks. The main thing is my sex drive is basically zero.
 
Try adding in a small amount of test, 10 mlg per day until u get ur drive back... Small trt doses shouldnt kill ur sperm count...

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j2048b said:
Try adding in a small amount of test, 10 mlg per day until u get ur drive back... Small trt doses shouldnt kill ur sperm count...

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I would think it still may hinder sex drive ? Anybody have personal experience
 
beast405 said:
I would think it still may hinder sex drive ? Anybody have personal experience
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Sex drive should improve, but it will likely defeat the purpose of the pct and doc ordered protocol to get your natural production of everything back in line.

Having your T crashed is tough. Sex becomes like taking out the trash...you do it once a week just because it needs done, not because you want to. Since you're trying to have a baby, talk with your wife and explain the situation to her. Tell her you need her to get freaky and do something "extra" to get you going. I would think she'd be willing to help out to achieve the baby goal. And be specific with what *your* kinks are and exactly what you like. If she spins her wheels trying stuff that doesn't do it for you, she is going to get frustrated fast.
 
Multislacking said:
Sex drive should improve, but it will likely defeat the purpose of the pct and doc ordered protocol to get your natural production of everything back in line.

Having your T crashed is tough. Sex becomes like taking out the trash...you do it once a week just because it needs done, not because you want to. Since you're trying to have a baby, talk with your wife and explain the situation to her. Tell her you need her to get freaky and do something "extra" to get you going. I would think she'd be willing to help out to achieve the baby goal. And be specific with what *your* kinks are and exactly what you like. If she spins her wheels trying stuff that doesn't do it for you, she is going to get frustrated fast.
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I miss typed that lol. I meant it would likely hinder sperm count atleast a little bit. And yes it’s bothering her that I don’t have that drive to have sex like I did while “on”. She doesn’t understand the whole hormone thing very much.
 
beast405 said:
I miss typed that lol. I meant it would likely hinder sperm count atleast a little bit.
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I knew exactly what you meant and agree (why I said "production of everything"). If the goal is a full pct and getting you going again, ride it out. It may take a few months though.

And yeah, women don't understand this type of hormone roller coaster. They understand theirs, but not ours. All they know is their man went from grabbing ass 24x7 to barely touching them once a week. In their mind, they are doing something wrong, we're not attracted to them any more, we've got a side piece, etc, etc. Another reason to communicate effectively!
 
18 months to full recovery of fertility in 100% of cases in one study I read. That is with no intervention (no HCG, HMG, clomid, nothing). Most recovered faster than that, but the outliers were knocking up women after a year and a half.

Recovery takes time.

PCT is intended to be a "jump start" to recovery, not something to remain on permanently.

it is hard for the body to restore homeostasis when you keep taking in things that modify your hormones.

FYI - four kids here. I came off completely whenever it was time to have another kid. It sucks. It takes time. The body does not recover in a couple days or a couple weeks.
 
malfeasance said:
18 months to full recovery of fertility in 100% of cases in one study I read. That is with no intervention (no HCG, HMG, clomid, nothing). Most recovered faster than that, but the outliers were knocking up women after a year and a half.

Recovery takes time.

PCT is intended to be a "jump start" to recovery, not something to remain on permanently.

it is hard for the body to restore homeostasis when you keep taking in things that modify your hormones.

FYI - four kids here. I came off completely whenever it was time to have another kid. It sucks. It takes time. The body does not recover in a couple days or a couple weeks.
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From my readings hmg Hcg and clomid definitely speed up the process
 
Frankdoz said:
I got my wife pregnant while on a regular cycle .


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Indeed, word had it the baby came out doing 8 hour arm days with Rich P. Google search confirmed it.

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Chiming in for my 2 cents? Maybe look at using a natty test booster in conjunction redcon and stuff from blackstone helped my when my t levels crashed in about a week I was back putting in the work.
 
What I’m doing isn’t meant to be pct. and I’m not even really trying to get my body back normal because odds are that’s not going to happen. I’ve been on a lot of gear off and on since a pretty young age. Been on for about 10 years off and on. I’m just trying to get my sperm count up enough to have 1 child then it’s back to trt and cycles for me man.




malfeasance said:
18 months to full recovery of fertility in 100% of cases in one study I read. That is with no intervention (no HCG, HMG, clomid, nothing). Most recovered faster than that, but the outliers were knocking up women after a year and a half.

Recovery takes time.

PCT is intended to be a "jump start" to recovery, not something to remain on permanently.

it is hard for the body to restore homeostasis when you keep taking in things that modify your hormones.

FYI - four kids here. I came off completely whenever it was time to have another kid. It sucks. It takes time. The body does not recover in a couple days or a couple weeks.
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Update : my girl is seeing a fertility specialist. The fertility doctor saw my Bloodwork(she’s knows I’ve taken steroids) but she’s concerned that I may be hypogonadal because my fsh and lh and test are low. So she prescribed me clomid today 25mg a day for 3 weeks. She doesn’t know about my current fertility protocol I’ve been on. I didn’t tell her for insurance purposes. So she said if my fsh and lh aren’t up in 3 weeks she’s going to order me a mri to make sure everything is ok with my hypothalamus.
 
But she did see my sperm test from about a month ago and said my sperm count on my last semen analysis was a little low but atleast I do have sperm to work with. So I’m wondering if I should stop my current fertility protocol and go with just the clomid like she wants me to do or what. Any input is appreciated ..
 
If your doc is playing ball (knows aas use in the past and is helping now) then a few weeks following doc's advice isn't going to hurt anything. We're all tempted to play doctor on ourselves here, but if you're actually working with a doc it makes them have to take shots in the dark to figure out what/why/etc. Especially if you're still throwing wrenches into the works. It's not like she isn't trying to help, right?
 
You’re right. May just follow her protocol bro.



Multislacking said:
If your doc is playing ball (knows aas use in the past and is helping now) then a few weeks following doc's advice isn't going to hurt anything. We're all tempted to play doctor on ourselves here, but if you're actually working with a doc it makes them have to take shots in the dark to figure out what/why/etc. Especially if you're still throwing wrenches into the works. It's not like she isn't trying to help, right?
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Somebody told me that the Hcg and hmg is lowering my fsh and lh. And to just do the clomid right now like the doc says. Do y’all think my sperm count will go back down if I come off the hmg and Hcg ?
 
Update : Just got semen analysis results back from the test I had done yesterday. Semen analysis shows sperm now at 32 million. And my rapid progressive sperm went way up. From 10% to 40%..Total count Has came up by 30 million since starting Hcg and hmg. Crazy ! Only thing that was out of range on the analysis was the ph was a little high.
 
beast405 said:
Update : Just got semen analysis results back from the test I had done yesterday. Semen analysis shows sperm now at 32 million. And my rapid progressive sperm went way up. From 10% to 40%..Total count Has came up by 30 million since starting Hcg and hmg. Crazy ! Only thing that was out of range on the analysis was the ph was a little high.
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So u changed nothing and everything came up? Or did u stop the HCG/HMG and only use clomid?
 
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