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    Are you using new needles and barrels evertime? Are you drawing from the vials and pinning with the same needle? Fuck the paper towels use cotton balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niteboss View Post
    Are you using new needles and barrels evertime? Are you drawing from the vials and pinning with the same needle? Fuck the paper towels use cotton balls.
    I use new pins and barrels every single time. Have 100ct boxes. A have drawn with my 25 g and pinned with it. And I also have a few.drawing pins I got from the pharmacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpal View Post
    You are not alone Shawn. DutchPharma has had more infections than any other lab that i know of yet it always gets swept under the rug. Consistent low bloodwork, infections and now this thread.
    Again I can only claim that I've had problems with the vials. I have horrible acne on this cycle. So.i guess it could be that. But I did have my first experience with what I guess is test flu. Had a rash and fever a few days. But a couple of these bumps were wicked.

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    Iím a long ester guy. So NPP is off my to-do list but itís still nandrolone and can cause acne. That being said, stoppers shouldnít fall apart in ten pokes even with an 18g. With no dog in the fight, Iíll add that Iím tracking Dutch and their mounting complaints. Iíd even go further to state they have not and most likely will not earn my business.

    Lastly, can you please list all the Dutch stock you have? I make no guarantee, but this is a great family, maybe something can be worked out, outside of Dutchís terrible response and products. PM me if you like.

    Dutch- sorry dude but youíre tarnished for weeks now. What are you doing about this guyís issues and your communication failures? Everyone is looking. If it were me, Iíd Jano everything on your list and provide a solution to the bad stoppers. Until then, Iím under the impression your sales are going to suffer. Hereís to hoping you hit a home run and restore our trust.

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    All you guys are amazing here. I dont need anything from the family here. I've already moved on to another sponsor and just started the other half of my cycle. One day in the future I will make another stab at this exact protocol with a different sponsor and compare results. I'm not out of pocket much. I would have liked to continue on a few more weeks. But chalk it up to experience.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lathe Crasher View Post
    Iím a long ester guy. So NPP is off my to-do list but itís still nandrolone and can cause acne. That being said, stoppers shouldnít fall apart in ten pokes even with an 18g. With no dog in the fight, Iíll add that Iím tracking Dutch and their mounting complaints. Iíd even go further to state they have not and most likely will not earn my business.

    Lastly, can you please list all the Dutch stock you have? I make no guarantee, but this is a great family, maybe something can be worked out, outside of Dutchís terrible response and products. PM me if you like.

    Dutch- sorry dude but youíre tarnished for weeks now. What are you doing about this guyís issues and your communication failures? Everyone is looking. If it were me, Iíd Jano everything on your list and provide a solution to the bad stoppers. Until then, Iím under the impression your sales are going to suffer. Hereís to hoping you hit a home run and restore our trust.
    All you guys are amazing here. I dont need anything from the family here. I've already moved on to another sponsor and just started the other half of my cycle. One day in the future I will make another stab at this exact protocol with a different sponsor and compare results. I'm not out of pocket much. I would have liked to continue on a few more weeks. But chalk it up to experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawn4425 View Post
    I know right,.its as shocker someone else complaining about Dutch. I'm only sharing my experience, as I'm sure not everyone has these problems, but I feel I need to share. I've taken the route of speaking with the rep and Robert or whoever is at that email address and I'm not satisfied.

    First of I'm a rookie in this world but im not stupid. I've had the same exact protocol now and I've used 4 different sponsors never once having the issue im having now.

    I'm not here to say the gear is underdosed. I feel the result I got were normal. I know you cant "feel" how things are working. But I've gotten a feel for how I react, and I feel the gear is dosed ok. I wouldnt say its "fire", but IMO nothing bad about the concentration.

    The company themselves work fast and cheap. You get decent communication in the beginning and fast service. But if you have a problem you will so see there may be a language barrier keeping you from getting your point across. I found it hard getting my point across over multiple emails after my first problem. You also get the feeling you may be speaking with multiple people.

    Had a bottle of NPP crashed I mentioned it before in a post. Figured out the stopper tore and water got in. Blahblahblah. Robert sent me out a replacemt an extra vial of Ultrabol300 for my trouble. He was supposed to send me 2 NPP and 1 Ultrabol300. Because I did poor math and was going to run short. I tack this up to poor communication. Either way a couple weeks later I ended up having the same problem with the 2nd Vial of NPP. I was told i was using harpoons and tearing the stopper. I made a post owning it and moved along. And on a side note I didnt get the Vial of Ultrabol300 for free I made an agreement to get bloods drawn for him. Which I order and still have.the receipt for.

    Anyways a few days ago started feeling like shit. And started getting a rash on my arm and weird sores. I happened to look into my Vail of Ultrabol300 and it was turning pinkish and you could see peices of the stopper in the vial, and peices of the stopper were in my barrel.

    Stopped all Dutch products. Stated my problem to rep and mod. Dutch sent me an email asking me what I wanted. I said I'm both longer on that cycle.ive had to cut it short. If he wanted he could send me some test base and test e for the trouble.

    He then proceeded to say this was a 2nd resend what was my problem. I told him not to worry about it. I was sharing my story. If he spoke with his rep he would know my pronlem was and have seen the pictures. So why do I need to explain again

    DUTCH you have a communication problem you need fixed to have good customer service. You also need to figure out why stoppers are tearing and vials arent being crimped properly.

    People can say that my problems are from user error and what not but I'm using the exact same protocol, from drawing pins, brand of pins, paper towels, 70% rubbing alcohol. This isnt me.

    I understand the rash is completely subjective and could be anything. Again no complaints on concentration. I feel I've made growth. But the stopper should not be breaking down like this after less then 10 weeks. That paper towel had rubbing alcohol on it that's it. If rubbing alcohol does that to the stopper what do the solvents inside the blend do.

    I cut my cycle short I had planned on bloods being drawn yesterday. But I think it's a waste since of been off for a few days and tests will show lower. But I did my part and was going to have them drawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poirot View Post
    Hey buddy, I feel ya.....to be perfectly honest the gear is not the problem, it's your 4th grade grammar......
    I'm sorry if my grammar isnt perfect. Typing this from my phone with fat thumbs. Sometimes I make typos

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawn4425 View Post
    I'm sorry if my grammar isnt perfect. Typing this from my phone with fat thumbs. Sometimes I make typos

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    Quote Originally Posted by custom View Post
    Don't worry about Poirot someone threw sand in his Vaseline jar last night
    I dont care. I get irritated myself when I read back over posts and see my typos. And I cant edit it here, because you only have a short window to change. May seem a bit hypocritical to complain about someone elses communication, when yours appears to be bad.

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    I draw with an 18g needle. It is next to impossible to puncture in the same spot twice unless youíre William Tell. Those rubber stoppers are horrible for anything but simple stuff like test with no solvents but ba and bb.
    I canít believe some labs still use them and those cheap ass tear off caps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachCabo View Post
    I draw with an 18g needle. It is next to impossible to puncture in the same spot twice unless youíre William Tell. Those rubber stoppers are horrible for anything but simple stuff like test with no solvents but ba and bb.
    I canít believe some labs still use them and those cheap ass tear off caps.
    Agreed, I've seen many different vials, but I've yet to see these red stoppers though

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    yeah, its a great compound but gives me some cystic acne or at least what looks like cystic acne- some get huge
    Quote Originally Posted by shawn4425 View Post
    I definitely have the worst back acne of my life. Fortunately it stayed there. None on my face or chest. I ended up getting accutane. I was about to make a post to see if people got bad acne on NPP or Deca. This was the main reason I tried this compound was hoping to avoid acne. It's horrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawn4425 View Post
    I'm sorry if my grammar isnt perfect. Typing this from my phone with fat thumbs. Sometimes I make typos

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